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Post by GuardianAngel Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:19 pm

bluwavz wrote:  

https://twitter.com/RealitySteve/status/1453116890394632192?s=20


 

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suzq wrote:I don't know why they are doing another Bachelor season this winter -- do they need more women contestants for Bachelor in Paradise next year?  Is it because Jesse Palmer still wants to do the College Football hosting?  I saw on Jesse's IG page that he is hosting Holiday Baking Championships which will start airing on Nov.1.  I am not sure how I feel about 2 back-to-back seasons of The Bachelor with no break.  JMO.

ariwolf wrote:yeah that seems really strange unless dwts is also changing schedules. people don’t like the tuesday night episodes from what i’ve seen and the ratings are a lot worse than when it airs on mondays.

so does this mean after clayton’s season there won’t be anymore january seasons? just bachelor airing in may, paradise in july, and bachelorette in october?

Aunties_Love wrote:
ariwolf wrote:yeah that seems really strange unless dwts is also changing schedules. people don’t like the tuesday night episodes from what i’ve seen and the ratings are a lot worse than when it airs on mondays.

so does this mean after clayton’s season there won’t be anymore january seasons? just bachelor airing in may, paradise in july, and bachelorette in october?
IMO, it is hard to say how the schedule will go.  They may do 2 bach seasons back to back, then 2 bette seasons.....may alternate like that.  Who knows what the powers that be are thinking......LOL


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Post by albean99 Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:47 am

It sounds like they're considering 2 Bachelors and 1 Bachelorette every year but I imagine they will wait and see how the ratings are.


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Post by bluwavz Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:01 pm

From Reality Steve's blog:

Fun times yesterday as the rumors I’d heard at the end of last week became a reality. As we know, Clayton’s season of the “Bachelor” is filming right now and will start airing the first Monday in January, as has been the norm I believe for the last 12 or 13 “Bachelor” seasons. However, if you saw my social media posts yesterday, there is a change coming after that. The next season of the show to air after Clayton’s will NOT be a “Bachelorette” season. It will be another “Bachelor” season. Normally “Bachelorette” would start filming the week of Clayton’s finale, film mid-March to be beginning of May, and start airing at end of May/beginning of June. That is now changing – at least for 2022. The next “Bachelor” season will begin filming around the 3rd week of February. That’s what I know right now. Heard the rumblings last week, reported it to you yesterday, then once I put it out there, got a few emails yesterday confirming it 100% that that’s what we’re getting. So knowing they film towards the end of February, and it’s a normal 7-8 week shoot, means filming will be done around mid to late April. No other outlet is reporting this, so, there’s nothing to add about when that season will air. But I think it’s safe to assume it’ll begin airing sometime in May. Basically, it’s just replacing a “Bachelorette” season that we’d normally see airing at that time.

Now, what does this mean going forward? I know a lot of you have questions, but again, I just found out about this yesterday. I don’t have every answer already in 24 hours. All I know for 100% fact is after Clayton’s season will be another “Bachelor” season. They are currently casting women for it now, and it starts filming around the 3rd week of February. When ABC will make this announcement themselves or whatever, I have no idea. We’re also still almost 4 months away from that filming starting. They haven’t chosen a “Bachelor” yet and probably won’t until the last minute like they always do. They will cast the women first, then settle on a lead. Everyone’s got their guesses on who it’ll be, but that’s all they are at this point – guesses. I don’t have the slightest clue who they’re picking. It’s been almost 15 years since they’ve chosen someone that no one knows, so again, I think it’s safe to assume it’ll be someone from the franchise. But hey, maybe they surprise us. I’ve heard nothing on that front considering I just confirmed it yesterday.

As for what this means for going forward for the franchise, nothing is set in stone. All we know for sure is what the next 2 seasons are going to be – Clayton’s and then whoever they choose as the “Bachelor” after him. That’s it. Hell, this franchise hasn’t even officially told you Clayton is the next “Bachelor,” so I don’t expect this news of another “Bachelor” season after his to come for a while. But that’s why I spoil. To tell you stuff before it’s announced.

So right now, we know the next two seasons. Clayton will air in its regular spot from January through mid March, and then the next “Bachelor,” knowing that filming is end of February through mid/late April, will probably air come May in replace of when the “Bachelorette” usually would. I haven’t heard anything about Paradise. Doesn’t mean there won’t be one, doesn’t mean there is. I’m just saying I haven’t heard either way. So after this next “Bachelor” season airs, I can only tell you what I’m hearing, which is not to be taken as 100% fact. But what I’m hearing is that they might be making this the new norm. 2 Bachelor seasons and 1 Bachelorette per calendar year. That is NOT confirmed, so all the aggregators out there do not need to source me that it is. Once I hear more, or get any confirmation of anything, you’ll be the first to know. But for 2022, we’re gonna have 2 Bachelors that we know will air back-to-back (Clayton’s then whoever they choose), and I believe the “Bachelorette” will shoot on the same schedule it has the last 2 summers like Clare/Tayshia & Michelle’s, which is shoot in mid/late July through end Aug/beginning of September, and air October thru December.

As we move into these seasons and the show starts officially announcing things (or if I hear beforehand like this one), we’ll start to know more. But this show has been terrible at transparency and making announcements, so don’t expect anything from them anytime soon. Like I said, they haven’t even acknowledged Clayton as their next Bachelor outside of Jesse Palmer’s IG post. So them telling everyone another “Bachelor” season will follow Clayton’s and air in the spring doesn’t seem like it’s coming anytime soon. This is strictly a prediction on my part, but I have a feeling Paradise might be done. It didn’t do well this past season, the format is getting old and tired, and…well, that’s just my prediction. I could be dead wrong but just looking at the overall picture, filming schedules and what not, and IF 2 Bachelor seasons and 1 Bachelorette season per calendar year becomes the norm, I almost think they have to get rid of Paradise. And if they do decide to keep it, I think you need to make some major tweaks to the format.

So lets say that’s what they do and you’ve got back to back Bachelor seasons that air Jan thru March and May thru end of July. Then your Bachelorette season airs in October thru December. That still means your filming schedule is:

Bachelor 1 films Sept thru November (airs first Monday in Jan)
Bachelor 2 films Feb thur April (airs sometime in May)
Bachelorette films July thru end Aug/beg of Sept (airs Oct thru Dec)

Basically means there will be Bachelor stuff either filming OR airing about 42 to 44 weeks out of the year. Which has been pretty standard for them. Could they still film Paradise for 3 weeks in June every year? Sure. They did it this year. I just personally think they need to either get rid of it, or, think of another spin off show to freshen things up. But hey, that’s just me.
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Post by Sprite Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:37 pm

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Post by GuardianAngel Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:29 pm

That makes my head spin. I have no idea why they would do two Bachelor's back to back when the 'ette has been more successful.

I can see them choosing an ette from Bach 2 but how do they choose a bachelor for Bach 1? Maybe they are going with someone outside of BN?


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Post by albean99 Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:59 pm

I wonder if it's possible that they realized that Clayton wouldn't be the popular choice after all and decided to bring in another Bachelor show. The Bachelor is my least favorite of the franchise shows so am not that excited. I'd like to see them pick an Asian or an Asian Indian next time.


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Post by ariwolf Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:28 am

i don't think it has anything to do with clayton imo. there's been plenty of terrible seasons and they haven't added a new one to the schedule because of it. i think that the bachelorette has been rating better than whatever has previously aired on tuesday nights in october-december so abc wants to make it permanent. and since the bachelor gets better ratings than the bachelorette, that's the one they decided gets a bonus season. all jmo.
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Post by Diamond Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:57 am

GuardianAngel wrote:That makes my head spin. I have no idea why they would do two Bachelor's back to back when the 'ette has been more successful.

They have more successful relationships, but The Bachelor always get more viewers (even if the ratings are low now). And while I love rooting for the Bachelorettes to find love and for their seasons to be great, the drama of The Bachelor is something else and maybe that's what they want
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Post by Aunties_Love Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:01 am

GuardianAngel wrote:That makes my head spin. I have no idea why they would do two Bachelor's back to back when the 'ette has been more successful.

I can see them choosing an ette from Bach 2 but how do they choose a bachelor for Bach 1? Maybe they are going with someone outside of BN?
I am wondering if they have eyes on another guy from Michelle's season for bach 2??


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Post by chasus71 Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:10 am

I wonder if they will circle back and ask Andrew S or Andrew A. (If he is ready to do the show)!! I don't think they would go for Greg G, but anything is possible there too. Just not sure if they would pick someone again from Michelle's season. Unless it is kind of like the Katie/Michelle thing and Michelle's F2 gets picked to be Bach.

Would they go for Blake (Katie's ex) for Bach?? I guess one never knows. That would be a double pick then if they went for Blake because he would be one from Katie/Clare-Tayshia's season?

I guess if Cameron doesn't want to do it then there are still a slough of guys to choose from the most recent Ette seasons. My thought is they will go with someone people know between Clare-Tayshia and Katie's season. JMO
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Post by pavalygurl Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:02 pm

Just speculation but I have a feeling they were turned down by a number of prospects late in the game and that is how we ended up with Clayton.  I'm not too crazy about Clayton and think if this is the guy they chose above all others from Michelle's season, the rest may be not interested/problematic?  IDK, JMO.   I'm not into seeing Blake as the bachelor either.  There is some speculation on Reddit that it could be Tyler because of his schedule.  Inquiring minds are still  guessing. laugh out loud

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Post by albean99 Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:22 pm

You might be right, @pavalygurl. Andrew S had said that he wasn't interested. I don't know if they asked anyone else from Michelle's season, though.

Tyler's a big no from me. He doesn't appear to be interested in dating anyone who isn't a model or someone with a very large following. He's got the looks but for me that's it. JMO of course.



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