Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #4

Beach Lover wrote:

eliza3 wrote:I am going to read her book, as I read Courtney's.   I think there will be many people who buy the book hoping to find out exactly what happened between her and Josh.   That's why I'll read it!

As for her job, I personally have a hard time figuring out what she is doing based on SM.  It's not like there are postings about her several times a day, or every day for that matter.    So I honestly have a hard time figuring out exactly what she is doing.  She may be going to an office somewhere every day for all I know.   I don't think she is so popular any more that people take pics of her everywhere she goes, hence it's hard to track her.

Well, I think we can rule out her going to an office everyday. We may not be able to tell everything about a person via SM, but when someone is regularly posting sightseeing photos, shopping and working out during the day, I think it's a pretty fair guess she isn't working a "regular" job.  Andi hasn't updated her Linkedin account in over two years back to when she was an ADA. I would think if she was employed by any company (even fashion) that she would want to update her professional profile. But she hasn't. Probably because she hasn't worked a "real" job since then.  I think she is just living in the moment and doing small projects (like Ash & Dan's) while she is still considered somewhat relevant and being given opportunities.  Somehow those and her SM endorsements seem to be funding her NYC lifestyle just fine for now. But at some point I would think those opportunties will dry up.  And what she chooses to do with her life at that point will show me what she's really made of and if she really does have that "potential" to do more productive things with her life.

As far as her book, I do think there's a good chance of it being a best seller just based on her followers alone. She has almost a million on IG (if they are legit, real people). And I do think there is enough interest still out there when it comes to what happend with her and Josh.  But if she comes out trashing him (or Nick and JP), what does she really gain?  Sure, there would be financial rewards and bragging rights initially to having a best seller, but I still think throwing someone under the bus in such a public way will only hurt her in long run. Bitter revenge is not pretty. Does anyone think men will go flocking to date Andi after this book?  What kind of "quality" guy that Andi would consider "good" enough for her, would want to be with a woman that shows her crazy and bitterness regarding an ex to the public?  I would steer clear!  

On that same note, with all the juicy details Courtney shared about the men in her life, has she been in a loving, committed relationship since her book came out?  If so, I'm not aware of it. I could see the same fate for

bleuberry wrote:I think it could definitely be a best seller. I didn't see Courtney's book becoming one and that was also a couple years after her season with a much smaller fan base. Especially if she has a really good press tour and bashes enough exes .

Sprite wrote:I really don't see a best seller coming out of this for Andi no matter how you slice it.

Her season will have been two years ago by the time the book hits the market. While Courtney wasn't the lead, she was a scandalous F1 who sexed up her book with Ben, Arie and plenty of other guys that she met during her modeling career. Sex sells. Lots of sex sells even better. By all accounts, she did not use the book in an effort to improve her image, nor was she preaching dating advice. Andi, on the other hand is apparently going to try to give us break up advice and dish a little dirt on the exes. I just don't see her getting as graphic as Courtney did, so I doubt there will be much salacious sex. Yes, there will be some Bachelor related gossip, but I just see her as trying to sell herself in a positive light...unlike Courtney, who didn't care. I really doubt the book will be truly self reflective enough to be a good advice book and not enough sex to be a quick, fun read.

For Andi's book to be successful it will have to balance the gossip with self reflection, humility and fun. From what I have seen on the show and from her post show behaviour, she hasn't shown much of any of those. Instead, I somehow expect her entitled attitude will seep through...and a touch of bitterness. I highly suspect that in the end, it will all just fall flat.

Sprite wrote:

bleuberry wrote:I think it could definitely be a best seller. I didn't see Courtney's book becoming one and that was also a couple years after her season with a much smaller fan base. Especially if she has a really good press tour and bashes enough exes .

But that was my point...I don't think she will really want to bash them all that much because it will make her look bad. I think she will try to paint herself as a kinder, gentler Andi, so yes, there will be some gossip and some negativity towards JPab and Josh, but I doubt she will go all ninja assassin mode on them....and that is IMO what will be needed to get that best seller. She will need to really dish the dirt, add a healthy dose of sex and actually be honest about what happened and I just don't see her doing that. My take is that she is too much of a control freak to truly be honest about her faults in all this and will try to sugar coat her part in it. She doesn't come across as self deprecating and having that ability to laugh at herself that Sean and Courtney do. That is the kind of thing that is important in any interview for this kind of book. I just don't see her pulling it off. I would love to see someone asking her some hard questions to see how she responds. If she gets all defensive and bent out of shape like she did when confronted during the show, then it would be clear that she is the same old Andi and nothing much has changed.

I guess we will just have to wait and see...or even if the book gets finished!

bleuberry wrote:I think just dishing on Josh and their relationship and break up might be enough for people who who were fans of them or their season. But purely guessing.

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You can break onto the NYT List in certain categories with sales as small as 3,000 copies sold. It all depends on the category and what else you’re competing with in a certain week. 3,000 copies. Can you believe it? That’s because as I explain over here, far, far less books are sold overall each year than you think.

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