The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Scaps - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

I think it's the other. I think it's the "I do love you" one. (more or less that sentiment...I didn't go back to re-listen.)

AAAH. Maybe he says I LOVE YOU twice to LAUREN!!! But, how does that explain, I said "I love you" to two people this week?

Do we know what he was wearing when he says the I have been in love with you for a while? (sorry at work trying to keep up with this and my job)

No not twice to Lauren imo. After seeing HTDisater with Jojo, I'm thinking its to give her "validation " because of her brother's concerns. He could still be upset when when he thinks about being put down by them and so let's her know that there feelings like love. But it's going to be interesting to see what the setting is because that ily has not romantic feel to it.

Edit: I just read Ben's blog and I do think it was to validate Jojo .

Tiggerlgh wrote:Do we know what he was wearing when he says the I have been in love with you for a while?  (sorry at work trying to keep up with this and my job)

To me it looked like the shirt he's wearing while talking to his parents.

ForeverLove wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:Do we know what he was wearing when he says the I have been in love with you for a while?  (sorry at work trying to keep up with this and my job)

To me it looked like the shirt he's wearing while talking to his parents.

He must own a bunch of navy blue shirts...it looks like the same one he's wearing with Lauren on their FD or LCD on the couch when she says she loves him (first time we saw her actual lips move in talking with him- proclaiming her love). How many think this is FD? How many think they say "ILY" on LCD? Now that I think about it, we don't see or hear Ben say "ILY" to Jojo immediately after she tells him (he smiles sweetly, though). I realize it is possible that they cut his "ILY" back to her over dinner on that platform. His ILY might be later to Jojo (or on his LCD with Jojo). The "I told two women I loved them this week" could be from LCD week?

Could that preview combine LCD & FD?

ForeverLove wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:Do we know what he was wearing when he says the I have been in love with you for a while?  (sorry at work trying to keep up with this and my job)

To me it looked like the shirt he's wearing while talking to his parents.

HMMM but that won't be next week but in two weeks. They are saying the two ILYs are next week. If he has already said it to Lauren the "I do love you". The other has to be to some one else.

Do we know what he wears to dinner with Lauren when they are dressed up?

Tiggerlgh wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:Do we know what he was wearing when he says the I have been in love with you for a while?  (sorry at work trying to keep up with this and my job)

To me it looked like the shirt he's wearing while talking to his parents.

HMMM but that won't be next week but in two weeks.  They are saying the two ILYs are next week.  If he has already said it to Lauren the "I do love you".  The other has to be to some one else.

Do we know what he wears to dinner with Lauren when they are dressed up?  

Good point. Did they show the dinner portion of their date? It looked like the "I've known I've been in love with you for a while..." was during the day with Lauren.

Assuming these are all actually from the FD episode, Ben's shirt is the best match for both ILYs with Lauren, imo. All observations below are jmo.

Here's the cap with "I've known I've been in love with you for awhile." (more or less, not verbatim)



From the preview with Lauren - dark gray, un-ironed collar



With Calia - too crisp a collar, color match too hard due to exposure



With JoJo - shirt too black



Also, Lauren and Ben's clothes match here. So Ben did seem to take Lauren outside the following morning.





My conclusion, both ILYs go to Lauren from what we've been shown. Again, jmo.

^^^^Thank you Litta!! Those appear to match to me. I can't wait to get home tonight so I can rewatch the preview.

I am sure he says it again but the two times shown are to Lauren. IMHO

I agree. I think he told another woman he loved her in the FS and they havent (yet?) showed it, then the next day, green t-shirt, he realises what he did, ("ITM "I told 2 women this week I loved them") followed by the crying on the ground, then dumping F3 - who I guess is Caila and who he would have said ILU too... which would explain his blog about the break up being at a weird time...

Ben, Ben, Ben ... what did you do?!

Great sleuthing gang! Thanks for the insight ...