The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - #2 *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Can't Caila even cry tears??

rosesrREd wrote:

mindless wrote:

bostonugirl92 wrote:Did anyone else feel like they were watching an episode of Sister Wives after the rose ceremony when Ben hugs both JoJo and Lauren into him and says, "Hey guys!" Creepy IMO

Yep. It was so cringey how both the women were trying to read each other's feelings to see any hint of hesitation or awkwardness and there was none. And Ben was trying to pretend he's not there. I think they both went into that RC thinking they've got this in the bag and came out feeling nervous again.

That's the thing that bothers me the most.  He told both of them "ILY."  Which is something which isn't normally allowed.  The F2 girl is going to be crushed, and he only has himself to blame.

And he continues to tell them next week!!

And what was that look JoJo gave LoLo at the end of the toast when she turned away.....

Just watched Jojo's date after being elated by he and Lauren's. NO! Just no. So much worse than I thought. I think he just loves Lauren more, and hopefully he has been totally up front with her and none of this is coming as a surprise. (Of course, he can explain some of the splice and dice, but if he never told Lauren he was in love with Jojo, that's going to be tough to get over.)

mizzoufan wrote:Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister  3h3 hours ago
Ben does a reverse Womack... But does he stick the landing?

So he picks both? and dates them both like Jen did

Per the bolded Mr. Fleiss:
Ben does not have to worry about sticking the landing. He stuck both girls. That should be enough.

I just think Ben is really stupid for telling them both. And it's not even like he slipped once, he told them both multiple times he's in love with them (including in the preview for the finale). I can forgive feeling like you're in love with two people because this process is a mind****, but it's really awful to tell them both when you know that it's going to make both of them think they have it in the bag. "That's how I was feeling in the moment and I couldn't hold it in" isn't a good enough excuse. It's just selfish. Especially since I do believe that both JoJo and Lauren felt that they were in love with him. Caila's 'I love you' came across very fake and rehearsed but I did get a sense of genuineness from those two girls.

If you're not 100% sure you're going to pick them, don't tell them that you love them. Ugh. My respect for Ben has gone way down after this episode. And I hope JoJo gets to be the Bachelorette. She deserves it after being probably the most lead on F2 in franchise history.

I dont think they will give it to JoJo because it will be too soon after the heartbreak.

reason wrote:I dont think they will give it to JoJo because it will be too soon after the heartbreak.

It'll have been 4 months. I'm sure she's already more than over it. Besides Nick, most F2/F3s move on VERY quickly once they're out of the bubble, IMO.

Ben's blog tomorrow should be a doozy!

Im trying to tie this in with what CH said about reminding him about saying he loved someome?  We know the Jojo's date was first and he said ILy to her in the afternoon portion of date.  Did a producer talk to him and convince him that now that he's slipped up it would be best for him to not hold back fom expressing his feelings for both girls???   I have a feeling in his naivete, he was convinced declaring his lve to both was in his best interest.

Jeepers wrote:Can't Caila even cry tears??

Nope. They showed her "crying" for ages and I didn't see a single tear.

mindless wrote:

Jeepers wrote:Can't Caila even cry tears??

Nope. They showed her "crying" for ages and I didn't see a single tear.

The entire things seemed scripted to me. It wasn't Caila's idea to go to Ben, imo, it was planted by production. Then production had to set up transportation to Ben's. So maybe true upset wasn't there until the limo ride. Even then it did not seem like gut wrenching upset.