The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - #2 *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

northernviewer wrote:Im trying to tie this in with what CH said about reminding him about saying he loved someome?  We know the Lauren date was first and he said ILy to her in the afternoon portion of date.  Did a producer talk to him and convince him that now that he's slipped up it would be best for him to not hold back fom expressing his feelings for both girls???   I have a feeling in his naivete, he was convinced declaring his lve to both was in his best interest.  

Actually Lauren's date was filmed last but they showed it second. Jojo's was before her's.

Julie81 wrote:

northernviewer wrote:Im trying to tie this in with what CH said about reminding him about saying he loved someome?  We know the Lauren date was first and he said ILy to her in the afternoon portion of date.  Did a producer talk to him and convince him that now that he's slipped up it would be best for him to not hold back fom expressing his feelings for both girls???   I have a feeling in his naivete, he was convinced declaring his lve to both was in his best interest.  

Actually Lauren's date was filmed last but they showed it second. Jojo's was before her's.

Sorry ... I really meant to say Jojos ... I'llgo change my post. Oops

nothatgirl wrote:

reason wrote:I dont think they will give it to JoJo because it will be too soon after the heartbreak.

It'll have been 4 months. I'm sure she's already more than over it. Besides Nick, most F2/F3s move on VERY quickly once they're out of the bubble, IMO.

While I know that it's been more than 4 months, I wonder how many in the regular viewing audience do? They will see her big, emotional dump at F2...and I now think it will be way worse than anticipated...and then she has to talk to Ben about it...and then turn around and go, "oh yeah, I'll be the next bette".

I suppose they could do make it work if they really want, but IMO it would just be so contrived. Much easier to pull off the girls who were let go earlier. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for Caila.

northernviewer wrote:

Julie81 wrote:

northernviewer wrote:Im trying to tie this in with what CH said about reminding him about saying he loved someome?  We know the Lauren date was first and he said ILy to her in the afternoon portion of date.  Did a producer talk to him and convince him that now that he's slipped up it would be best for him to not hold back fom expressing his feelings for both girls???   I have a feeling in his naivete, he was convinced declaring his lve to both was in his best interest.  

Actually Lauren's date was filmed last but they showed it second. Jojo's was before her's.

Sorry ... I really meant to say Jojos ... I'llgo change my post.   Oops

Oh you're fine girl!

Sorry I need a recap here. So how many times Ben said ILY to Lauren ?

So am I the only one who thinks he slept with all 3 of them?

Also, those who mentioned producer manipulation, in what way? Do you think they coerced him to say ILY that many times to both of them? I am really curious to know your thoughts.

dyra wrote:Sorry I need a recap here. So how many times Ben said ILY to Lauren ?

At least four and almost the same to JoJo.

dyra wrote:Sorry I need a recap here. So how many times Ben said ILY to Lauren ?

I counted at least four but might be more. I'm ok with it now. Des said ILY's to 2 guys. Finale here we come!

We are flipping out about a stupid TV show and I just read that Joey Feek is in her final days on this earth. So sad.

I think Ben is going to use the unlovable move and say he just got caught up with 2 women loving him.He had never felt really loved before.It is going to be his attempt to have everyone feel sorry for him after this mess tonight.Hasn't that been the theme of his season that he was unlovable?

mizzoufan wrote:Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister  3h3 hours ago
Ben does a reverse Womack... But does he stick the landing?

So he picks both? and dates them both like Jen did

I never thought about this.    You might be onto something!  Charlie did it too. Actually I believe the spoiler.

nutty1 wrote:So am I the only one who thinks he slept with all 3 of them?

Also, those who mentioned producer manipulation, in what way? Do you think they coerced him to say ILY that many times to both of them? I am really curious to know your thoughts.

No. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he did. Caila seemed pretty pissed getting out of that van, but edited herself. I'm sure he did it with the other two.