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Eric Bigger - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers

SFoster wrote:The last couple of episodes (4 and 5) during the rose ceremonies, Eric has been called out before Peter. This is when they both get a rose during the ceremony. But in episode #5, Dean was called before both of them, so that probably doesn't mean anything. As I recall that used to mean something, not sure if it still does.

bryan and Peter have been pretty consistently first whichever one that doesn't already have a rose.

Eric Bigger - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers

The last couple of episodes (4 and 5) during the rose ceremonies, Eric has been called out before Peter. This is when they both get a rose during the ceremony. But in episode #5, Dean was called before both of them, so that probably doesn't mean anything. As I recall that used to mean something, not sure if it still does.

Amanda Stanton - BIP 4 - Discussion

I thought I spotted Amanda in pic #5 on the far right in the photos from TMZ. I could not tell who she was talking with, though. It may be one of Rachel's guys as I'm not familiar with many of them.

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #6

@moonchild page 76 of Peter thread #5

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4264p900-peter-kraus-bachelorette-13-sleuthing-spoilers-5

ETA: here's the post, thanks to poster @max64
Just went back through the SM threads to find out where Peter was in the time frame June 6th -June 8th If there was a SHV with Peter it would have to be somewhere around Madison so he could work. I know in the past that isn't the case but if he is f1 I don't know how else they could sneak him out with the type of work he does.

Peter
He posted on ig 10mins ago while Rachel liked pictures about 9mins later on June 6th @13:51

Looks like Peter is working from home or in today... he just posted a story to Instagram on June 7th @10:23 (this was the Instagram story he seemed very happy to be working from home) https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4229p588-bachelorette-13-rachel-lindsay-fan-forum-spoiled-f1-a-sleuthing-spoilers-discussion-2

Well he is not with Rachel he has a bootcamp today ! on June 7 https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4229p600-bachelorette-13-rachel-lindsay-fan-forum-spoiled-f1-a-sleuthing-spoilers-discussion-2

Peter just posted an IG video from his boot camp. On June 7 https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4229p624-bachelorette-13-rachel-lindsay-fan-forum-spoiled-f1-a-sleuthing-spoilers-discussion-2

Then there are several more pictures of Peter with fans after his class on June 7th
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4229p648-bachelorette-13-rachel-lindsay-fan-forum-spoiled-f1-a-sleuthing-spoilers-discussion-2

Peter posted on Instagram June 8th the picture of him and his father https://www.instagram.com/p/BVFDPUyAYgw/?taken-by=peterkrauswi&hl=en

Someone posted this on Instagram that they worked on with Peter on June 8th they commented on his heavy beard wondering if he was trying to disguise himself. https://www.instagram.com/p/BVFDUxRgmEM/

Rachel:
June 6th Rachel was flying American with a new hair do https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4230p504-bachelorette-13-rachel-lindsay-sm-media-sleuthing-spoilers-discussion-7

This the thread that most of the AA flight took place for reference https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4230p516-bachelorette-13-rachel-lindsay-sm-media-sleuthing-spoilers-discussion-7

Rachel was silent on SM and not sightings of her since the AA flight until she posted on Instagram a picture of her dog. https://www.instagram.com/p/BVGIY0zD8GB/?taken-by=therachlindsay&hl=en which could have been taken anytime and then an old picture on June 8th

Dr. Bryan Abasolo - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #2

[mention]kerriway[/mention] wrote:This whole situation is a cluster. I've thought long and hard about this. I LOVE Peter for Rachel but unfortunately have now come to the conclusion that she chooses Bryan in the end because:

1. RS isn't perfect but he's rarely wrong. And as far as I know, he's never updated a spoiler without that update/change being exactly what happened.

2. Rachel went on the Bachelor knowing Nick was the guy. Bryan is more like Nick than Peter is.

3. Rachel likes bad boys (she doesn't overtly state this. She refers to this affinity as 'confidence' when people ask her what she likes most about her fiance). That characteristic is the reason she picks Eric & Bryan to be in her final 3. They are her type, Peter is a departure from her type. All the Bachelorette's stick with their type: Andi/Josh, Jojo/Jordan, Kaityln/Shawn, Desiree/Brooks & Chris (Desiree was on Sean's season (nice guy {#}1{/#}) and had 2 (Chris & Drew) very nice guys to choose from. Heck even Brooks was far from a bad boy.

4. The Bachelorette is always nervous/sometimes even standoffish about the guy she really likes because, unlike her relationship with the other guys, her emotions are involved. Her F1 is the only one that can hurt her if he doesn't reciprocate. What bothers me the most about Pachel is Rachel doesn't seem nervous around Peter. She doesn't seem like she's trying to figure him out. Even though she threw herself at Peter a little bit and clearly likes him, she seems like she's in complete control of her emotions/relationship with him. It dawned on me that this is because she's not intimidated by him and she doesn't love him.

5. Alpha chicks want Alpha guys. Rachel is a confident/take charge time of girl, she doesn't want to take charge in her personal life. She mentioned this during her first group date when the guys weren't making moves. Bryan took charge of his very first encounter with Rachel. He initiated the kiss immediately. He had Rachel say she liked him more than all the other guys. Us girls love that kind of aggressiveness/forwardness. And while Peter's no wallflower, he's not overly assertive. He was shaking when he gave Rachel the chocolate & met her for the first time an Rachel had to initiate her first kiss with Peter.

I'm not liking this at all as I'm TeamPachel and IMO, Peter's like sweet tea in July but I'm now convinced he's not F1. I'll do cartwheels if Peter is her pick but from now on I'll be watching the show to see how Bryan destroys all the other guys and wins the final rose.

The social media activity was making me think it might be Peter, but {#}5{/#} was what originally made me feel like the spoiler was off. Because even on Mario, Rachel talked about how guys in the past have been intimidated by her and like the idea of her, but can't actually handle being with her. That, plus the repeated talk of the word confidence, makes me think of Bryan because I do kind of think Peter is somewhat intimidated by her. It's like he's always waiting for her to take control and can't fully be comfortable around her. Whereas Bryan doesn't seem like he's intimidated by anyone and is the most confident guy in any room. Even if you look at the whole cast of guys, most of them are intimidated by her and which is why so many have been afraid to make the first move. I have to imagine Bryan stands out in a cast like that.

The others can be explained away for me, as I haven't seen her nervous or standoffish around either of those guys and I don't think Rachel had ever even watched a full season because Astrid said she didn't know what things like FIR rose and GDR were, so I don't know how much she knew about nick beforehand and if he is her normal type. Even RS seems a lot less reliable this season, as I can't remember the last time he had zero spoilers about group date roses and drama and even a straightforward elimination timeline, so his word means less than nothing to me. But the confidence and not being intimidating thing are hard for me to attribute to Peter. IMO.

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Media SM Vids - Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers #5

Previous Media SM Vids threads here

Continue #5 here.

Stacia620 wrote:
bleuberry wrote:It feels like we're slowly being set up for a break up. It's weird how many of his franchise friends are all meh about it. Only Sharleen fully ships N&V together IMO.

I agree with you. Something doesn't feel right.

ReneeM wrote:In regards to Ashley, I think she knows who gets chosen. IMO She also loves being in the spotlight so she's doing all these reviews of the episodes and is overcompensating for knowing by trying to act like all the average viewers. Every time I see her in a video talking about the show, her tone is different talking about Vanessa than the other girls and then she tries to cover it up. On after buzz, she's slipped up a couple of times IMO kind of talking as if its a forgone conclusion that Vanessa's the one he chooses. Just the vibe I get whenever I watch any reviews she does. All JMO.

ReneeM wrote:
bleuberry wrote:It feels like we're slowly being set up for a break up. It's weird how many of his franchise friends are all meh about it. Only Sharleen fully ships N&V together IMO.

In her video for flare, Sharleen was more reserved than some of the others about the Andi section, where she didn't outright say 'they still have the hots for each other' but even she kind of hedged a little about the chemistry Nick and Andi still have. JMO.

bleuberry wrote:
ReneeM wrote:
bleuberry wrote:It feels like we're slowly being set up for a break up. It's weird how many of his franchise friends are all meh about it. Only Sharleen fully ships N&V together IMO.

In her video for flare, Sharleen was more reserved than some of the others about the Andi section, where she didn't outright say 'they still have the hots for each other' but even she kind of hedged a little about the chemistry Nick and Andi still have. JMO.

I just read her flare recap and it seems like she cooled on the N&V front a little too. Hmmm.

Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 4 Jan 23 - Sleuthing Spoilers

Longhornfan wrote:IMO there is nothing funny or entertaining about Corrine. The amount of screen time that she gets every week is making this season unbearable to watch, and it makes me wonder who the joke is really on? Is the joke on us the audience for tuning in every week to watch this mess, better known as the Corrine Show? Or is the joke on Nick who "appears" clueless and totally unaware of Corrine's toxic existence on the show?

All I know is that the overload of Corrine in each episode is making me want to quit watching this mess of a season. Next week will be episode #5, and all of the other women other than Corrine (and whoever they are pitting against her - in this case Taylor) have been given virtually snippets of airtime. Thus, we know nothing about the vast majority of the women who are still there. And, apparently Corrine will dominate the show all the way up until the Final 4. I find this disgusting.

So, how are the rating for Nick's season? Am I in the minority here who find this season turning into a dud?

You said it better than I ever could!

Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 4 Jan 23 - Sleuthing Spoilers

IMO there is nothing funny or entertaining about Corrine. The amount of screen time that she gets every week is making this season unbearable to watch, and it makes me wonder who the joke is really on? Is the joke on us the audience for tuning in every week to watch this mess, better known as the Corrine Show? Or is the joke on Nick who "appears" clueless and totally unaware of Corrine's toxic existence on the show?

All I know is that the overload of Corrine in each episode is making me want to quit watching this mess of a season. Next week will be episode #5, and all of the other women other than Corrine (and whoever they are pitting against her - in this case Taylor) have been given virtually snippets of airtime. Thus, we know nothing about the vast majority of the women who are still there. And, apparently Corrine will dominate the show all the way up until the Final 4. I find this disgusting.

So, how are the rating for Nick's season? Am I in the minority here who find this season turning into a dud?

Jaimi King - Bachelor 21 - Sleuthing - No Spoilers

GuardianAngel wrote:

Jaimi
Bachelorette
contestant biography
Age: 28

Occupation: Chef

Hometown: New Orleans, LA

Height: 5'2"

Tattoos? Wrists – "Forever Smiles," side – "To Die For," Left lower back – heart shaped grenade, right lower abdomen – symbol of my initials, a heart and the #5

If you could be any animal, which one and why? A tiger. In Bali. I like warmer climates, I like to be social, and they're strong and beautiful.

What is the most outrageous thing you have ever done? I've crowd surfed, which was amazing.

What is your greatest achievement to date? Catering the Oscars.

What are you most afraid of? Probably not knowing truly if someone loves me as much as I love them.

If you wanted to really impress a man, what would you do and why? Depending on how much bigger he is than me, I could bench press him with my legs. It's pretty exciting and surprising.

What's your worst date memory?: I went on a blind date and he got up in the restaurant and sang to me. First and last date.

Do you follow a specific diet (i.e. vegetarian, macrobiotic, etc.)?: Pesco-pollo-lacto-ovo-paro-tarian. Just fish + bird, plus byproducts.

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelor/cast/jaimi

Jaimi King - Bachelor 21 - Sleuthing Spoilers

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Jaimi
Bachelorette
contestant biography
Age: 28

Occupation: Chef

Hometown: New Orleans, LA

Height: 5'2"

Tattoos? Wrists – "Forever Smiles," side – "To Die For," Left lower back – heart shaped grenade, right lower abdomen – symbol of my initials, a heart and the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

If you could be any animal, which one and why? A tiger. In Bali. I like warmer climates, I like to be social, and they're strong and beautiful.

What is the most outrageous thing you have ever done? I've crowd surfed, which was amazing.

What is your greatest achievement to date? Catering the Oscars.

What are you most afraid of? Probably not knowing truly if someone loves me as much as I love them.

If you wanted to really impress a man, what would you do and why? Depending on how much bigger he is than me, I could bench press him with my legs. It's pretty exciting and surprising.

What's your worst date memory?: I went on a blind date and he got up in the restaurant and sang to me. First and last date.

Do you follow a specific diet (i.e. vegetarian, macrobiotic, etc.)?: Pesco-pollo-lacto-ovo-paro-tarian. Just fish + bird, plus byproducts.

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Mikhel Sickand - Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - Sleuthing Spoilers

already

piecing these pieces together..let alone trying to lay all out

. But here goes the condensed version. Hopefully makes sense !

MIKHEL AS THE F1- HTD AND FD ANALYSIS - Part 1 (ALL JMHOAA)

- A couple of observations:

on HTD: Mike's dad to Jas and Mike : you two seem like good friends. Kevin's dad to Jas and Kev: you two look like a couple. on Mikhel's HTD: Jasmine: I feel like WE are a couple. > the whole word play is very amusing to me!
the riff over Mikhel and Jas's on the sea= the riff used over Sam-Snez on their FD.

-Despite my brief analysis here i have to bring up the HTD again in doing FD analysis..since turned out the suspicious Pis i have picked up on that previous post are coming from FD stage, as i suspected. Will be elaborated more at the end of this post. Just like puzzle, i put the 1-1 matching pieces together. for easier reference, i put the number in the matching pieces. Link to episode 1-9 :: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3ooUiYCV_bgNUpMRUI2UE5PYmc

Seasons Preview (at the end of Episode 1)
Mikhel got the line: Who wants those same things as me.... wants to be in love and fall in love on 1:04:39 mark (The key edit principal : the VO panning over the contestant refers to the contestant narration by the VO).

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PRV 1. my SC from Season Preview

on Episode 9, Jas was shown talking about Mikhel in this PI on 18:21 mark :

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PI1. We want the same things out of our future that means everything to me and its one of the things what i like about him the most...

#1 > PI 1 + PRV1 = Matched.>I wonder if this also means that Mikhel and Jas have the same wanderlust and adventure aspiration perhaps?

#2 whereas Kevin got the line in the preview : I have made the wrong choices in the past. Part of me is nervous that i could do the same thing. > the same thing referred to wrong choices= Kevin (?)

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PRV 2. my SC from Season Preview

This IMO matched and being emphasized by her mom and sister on Episode 9 at MTP implying that Kevin’s is kinda her usual type. Ive been wondering all season before FD what her type really is... i guess the FD episode gave the answers for me :
ITM1. 49:50 mark, Jade: i think he look like the guy i would expect her to see with
ITM3 50:04 Linda: Kevin seems to be what i think Jasmine tend to gravitate towards. The good looking, charismatic, you know..that type...

> PRV2 + ITM1+ITM2 = Matched. (JMO of course)

#3. VO.1. Jas's VO on Episode 9 . 18:12 mark: Mikhel has like a genuine desire to really make things work no matter what. matched with point no 5 and 6 here

It didn't surprise me a bit that part of her "aim" on the show on episode 9 was narrated by her mom and sister, since it was instilled in the beginning of Jas's journey, during her sitdown with the mom and sis, by both ladies :

#4. ITM 3. Linda On Episode 1.on 3:47 mark (before Jas's limo ride): All i want is for her to find somebody that would care for her with all her faults.
This ITM found more than one matches on Episode 9 , revolving Mikhel:

ITM 4. Jade on Episode 9. On 42:56 mark Mikhel seems like a really nice genuine honest person who seems like he really really really care about Jasmine.
ITM 5. Linda On 45:40 mark : note that this is a VO (meaning: inserted, during/after filming for whatever reasons) : My biggest wish has always been that someone like Mikhel can actually (followed by ITM- what she said on the spot): make Jasmine feel loved and look after her and take care of her the way she should be.

> ITM 3 +ITM 4 +ITM 5 = matched

#5. ITM 6. Jade’s ITM Episode 9, 43: 00 mark : I think Mikhel the kind of guy Jasmine should be with. Being a guy thats looking for long term with Jasmine and will treat her right.
Matched with Jasmine’s description of her final guy ..point no.7 here , based on one of her interview. (INT1)

TBC to part 2