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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

Buckeye_Fan wrote:
FashionLover wrote:
BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/

Isn't it interesting though that Bryan was never tagged or hashtagged on that post? just a thought

It was interesting to me too! Alex is right - we only see what the producers want us to see. If they want to show us every single time Peter was petty, but never show any of Bryan's faults, then Bryan looks like a saint and there is no Saint Peter. Not quite sure why they want to make Peter look bad, unless they have somebody else in mind for the next lead. If so, please let it be Alex!!!!

Per the bolded:
I think Petey pissed production off someway somehow or someone just didn't like him.

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

Buckeye_Fan wrote:
FashionLover wrote:
BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/

Isn't it interesting though that Bryan was never tagged or hashtagged on that post? just a thought

It was interesting to me too! Alex is right - we only see what the producers want us to see. If they want to show us every single time Peter was petty, but never show any of Bryan's faults, then Bryan looks like a saint and there is no Saint Peter. Not quite sure why they want to make Peter look bad, unless they have somebody else in mind for the next lead. If so, please let it be Alex!!!!

Or Peter didn't like Bryan and was petty towards him while Bryan didn't care about Peter and wasn't petty towards him, so they don't have Bryan footage to show in that vein. It's always interesting debating hypotheticals because you can certainly make it work for whatever side of the debate you're on.

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

FashionLover wrote:
BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/

Isn't it interesting though that Bryan was never tagged or hashtagged on that post? just a thought

It was interesting to me too! Alex is right - we only see what the producers want us to see. If they want to show us every single time Peter was petty, but never show any of Bryan's faults, then Bryan looks like a saint and there is no Saint Peter. Not quite sure why they want to make Peter look bad, unless they have somebody else in mind for the next lead. If so, please let it be Alex!!!!

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/

Isn't it interesting though that Bryan was never tagged or hashtagged on that post? just a thought

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/

Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 8 - July 17 - Sleuthing Spoilers

[mention]djogbenyuie[/mention] wrote:For real though, i'm not gonna lie, i'm totally having a gut feeling Peter is F1.
When it's that obvious qho the F1 is, it's just not believable anymore.
I think since he is that guarded, either she sent him home at F3 or he is F1. A reluctant F2 is no good for TV.
I'm not sure we will have a proper redemption development or anything like that but I just feel like it's gonna go that way just because it doesn't seem like it and they are insisting on it way too much.
Don't have any explanation for SHV or communications other than if they want to play up social media to misdirect, I can see them go all the way with itv and blogs especially if, like you guys said, Rachel know about sleuthing.

And that would explain Peter bitterness at the moment for sure. And miracle season and season of first.

I don't even have explanation of how she is that much into Bryan and will be accepting another's man proposal other than we are not in her heart and head.

Don't know but putting it out there and may the sleuthing continue.
Lol

I have to say though, from a viewer perspective, it's not fulfilling to see a one sided love for that long.
And for couples that come out from.this franchise with the lead more into the F1 than the F1 into the lead, it didn't last (April and Tim comes to mind)
All jmo

{#}TeamRachel{/#}

Keep the bold in your thoughts because that is what will be reveal on the final. IMHO If possible always, always follow your gut feelings. IMHO

Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 8 - July 17 - Sleuthing Spoilers

djogbenyuie wrote:For real though, i'm not gonna lie, i'm totally having a gut feeling Peter is F1.
When it's that obvious qho the F1 is, it's just not believable anymore.
I think since he is that guarded, either she sent him home at F3 or he is F1. A reluctant F2 is no good for TV.
I'm not sure we will have a proper redemption development or anything like that but I just feel like it's gonna go that way just because it doesn't seem like it and they are insisting on it way too much.
Don't have any explanation for SHV or communications other than if they want to play up social media to misdirect, I can see them go all the way with itv and blogs especially if, like you guys said, Rachel know about sleuthing.

And that would explain Peter bitterness at the moment for sure. And miracle season and season of first.

I don't even have explanation of how she is that much into Bryan and will be accepting another's man proposal other than we are not in her heart and head.

Don't know but putting it out there and may the sleuthing continue.
Lol

I have to say though, from a viewer perspective, it's not fulfilling to see a one sided love for that long.
And for couples that come out from.this franchise with the lead more into the F1 than the F1 into the lead, it didn't last (April and Tim comes to mind)
All jmo

#TeamRachel

I understand why you're feeling this way because yes, it seemingly would not make sense to show the F1 and the lead's relationship as completely drama free and without issues so viewers won't know that's who is getting picked. It's much like last season where viewers bought the "Vanessa is so whiny and weepy and she and Nick are so miserable while things between him and Raven are so easy and perfect" edit and sure enough Nick picked Vanessa.

However, we have seen the reluctant F2 - Chris Soules' season with Becca. And with Nick's season for example, despite what the editing was trying to show, most people still picked up on the fact that Nick was never really that into Raven so it was obvious he was going to pick Vanessa. That is not the case this season in my opinion. I see no evidence that Rachel isn't fully into Bryan, IMO. I'm sure many see differently and that's their right but to me, woman seems gaga over that guy and has for most of the season.

Also, as some said, we likely will get to the Bryan doubts when the guys meet Rachel's family. My prediction is we will have the family or the sister at least questioning Bryan's sincerity, while Peter will still have his issues and they will probably like Eric and things will continue to build for Eric and Rachel as we've been seeing, only for Eric to "surprisingly" be booted at F3. So then it will be either the guy who seems not ready to commit or the guy her family questions may not be fully sincere. So I do think there will be some storyline.

The thing is as good as the editors/producers are, they still can only work with what they have. And judging by the comments about Bryan from some of the guys who were on the season, it seems like there probably just wasn't much for the producers to work with in terms of creating a dramatic/doubts creeping in/minor villain storyline around him and Rachel because he just didn't really give much in the way of that.

He was very laid back and calm, didn't seem to get in his head about the show and the other guys and questioning her feelings for him because of other guys, didn't have drama with anyone and never wavered in his feelings for her. They tried with the "too good to be true" doubts and of course the stuff with Rachel's sister coming up but I just feel like Bryan was one of those contestants who were able to go through this crazy azz show relatively sane and just focused on his relationship with Rachel.

With regard to Peter's post, I agree with those who say that anyone has a right to defend themselves. However, I will admit that I was thrown when I saw the essay length post because as I've said, I cannot think of one place online that I've read this season about the show, where the Peter love isn't crazy over the top. Even here where things try to be balanced, there was a period where it did feel like walking into a lion's den to say anything critical about him. So yeah, I was surprised by the post but even if it is only ten negative posts out of a 100 positive ones, a person has the right to defend themselves as they see fit.

However, I agree with those that it is a bit hypocritical to be so offended and write long diatribes about hate, when however small, he has done his part in liking comments that have disparaged other contestants on the season, simply because it was praising him. And it is interesting to me that Peter is defended by some and so appalled that anyone will criticize his right to defend himself and Bryan is judged for a mocking IG story singing about loving his mother. When it's possible that this is Bryan's way of handling hate and criticism - mock or laugh it off. But that is proof of how he cares about no one but himself and more diatribes on how horrible of a human being he is. But Peter writes an essay about how horribly and unfairly he is treated while STILL liking a comment calling Bryan insincere and him so sincere and honest and that's okay.

To each his own but I'll just say that I have more respect for the guy who hasn't spent his time shading others with likes, while constantly also liking ones practically deifying him and who chooses to keep quietly living his life despite all the hatred he has gotten for being 37, being from Miami, never having been married/engaged before, being a chiropractor and really for some, basically just existing.

Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 8 - July 17 - Sleuthing Spoilers

For real though, i'm not gonna lie, i'm totally having a gut feeling Peter is F1.
When it's that obvious qho the F1 is, it's just not believable anymore.
I think since he is that guarded, either she sent him home at F3 or he is F1. A reluctant F2 is no good for TV.
I'm not sure we will have a proper redemption development or anything like that but I just feel like it's gonna go that way just because it doesn't seem like it and they are insisting on it way too much.
Don't have any explanation for SHV or communications other than if they want to play up social media to misdirect, I can see them go all the way with itv and blogs especially if, like you guys said, Rachel know about sleuthing.

And that would explain Peter bitterness at the moment for sure. And miracle season and season of first.

I don't even have explanation of how she is that much into Bryan and will be accepting another's man proposal other than we are not in her heart and head.

Don't know but putting it out there and may the sleuthing continue.
Lol

I have to say though, from a viewer perspective, it's not fulfilling to see a one sided love for that long.
And for couples that come out from.this franchise with the lead more into the F1 than the F1 into the lead, it didn't last (April and Tim comes to mind)
All jmo

#TeamRachel

Dr. Bryan Abasolo - Bachelorette 13 - Discussion - #4

makeover wrote:
Well said!

I find it interesting that once she called that troll out, he/she immediately tried to apologize and suck up to Rachel, when just a while ago that troll was basically calling Rachel stupid for being hoodwinked by Bryan. That's how internet trolls are...and Rachel just exposed them.

And it's not only Rachel. Even Will had some annoying comments on his IG photo that he took with Bryan. Someone commented that ABC must have paid him for the photo-op with Bryan and Will replied instantly "I don't need to get paid to hang out with my friends". Of course, that person also apologized and said he wasn't trying to offend Will.

The trolls are very predictable. And they will get over it 2 weeks after the finale and move on something to hate, so I don't think B & R have anything to worry about.

Thank you!

And, yes. It is multiple people who either apologized or realized they'd been acting "entitled" and "disrespectful" and all of a sudden realized, they were supposed to be #teamrachel and this was about HER journey to find love. So many people are all of a sudden reminded, wait, they liked her a lot and she's lovely and they'll just root for her happy ending. And that was off one comment she left. Give the woman a media tour with her man and let's see how much more that theme continues. Lol.

And to your other point? Exactly. To the people that are dug in and about that hater nation troll life to the extent they can't be happy for her? Oh, well. Good riddance. Enjoy your next outrage. Lmafo.

Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 7 - July 10 - Sleuthing Spoilers

Kashathediva wrote:I think in anyone's life there are going to be sunny days and rainy days. That's life.
I am interested in exploring this comment Ladybug82 mentioned the other day:
Ladybug82 wrote:Serious question, no snark or sarcasm meant. But for those that think Rachel is playing Bryan or that Peter or Eric are the better choice and more obvious love story, will you still be #teamrachel and support her and her F1 post show, if Bryan is indeed F1?

From what I personally picked up on the internet I think there are a lot of people that will not be happy. Not that personally it effects me or how I feel. It should make for an interesting post season discussion.

Personally I love to speculate who the lead will choose and why, if I see said connection or if they have long term potential. If that happens to coincide with my favourites, bonus, however in the end it is their choice and doesn't really impact me. On the really rare occasion that I happen to like both the lead and the F1, naturally I get a little more invested, but even then, I'm pretty low key about it. If I'm not a fan, then it matters even less. I guess, for me, it is more about whether I can solve the puzzle that is this show rather that getting invested in the couples.

Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 7 - July 10 - Sleuthing Spoilers

Ladybug82 wrote:Serious question, no snark or sarcasm meant. But for those that think Rachel is playing Bryan or that Peter or Eric are the better choice and more obvious love story, will you still be #teamrachel and support her and her F1 post show, if Bryan is indeed F1?

I don't get what you mean by Rachel playing Bryan. The lead has to play the guys she's not picking in the end and she should pick who she wants and not who we think is the best for her, imo. I do worry Bryan's playing her though. I think there's a reason she was worrying if he were "too good to be true". Having said that, I'm #TeamRachel and will support her and hope it turns out.

Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 7 - July 10 - Sleuthing Spoilers

I think in anyone's life there are going to be sunny days and rainy days. That's life.
I am interested in exploring this comment Ladybug82 mentioned the other day:

Ladybug82 wrote:Serious question, no snark or sarcasm meant. But for those that think Rachel is playing Bryan or that Peter or Eric are the better choice and more obvious love story, will you still be #teamrachel and support her and her F1 post show, if Bryan is indeed F1?

From what I personally picked up on the internet I think there are a lot of people that will not be happy. Not that personally it effects me or how I feel. It should make for an interesting post season discussion.