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Post by jojo47 Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:10 pm

chasingpavements wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
jojo47 wrote:..The numbers are starting to get a little blurred from one epi to the next. I may have asked this before, but did Ben H getting a HTD ever get figured out? If the numbers are off, I wonder if he ends up having a date in Utah as well. It would make the #'s at the end align better & allow for an elimination in Utah before LCD's.
Yup, who knows if all the HTDs were in Utah or not... the numbers aren't adding up as I was thinking and posted upthread because He Who Knows Nothing RS said there are supposed to be 6 guys remaining in Ep 7. We now know there will be 7 guys remaining this episode. From then on, RS didn't know much and got the ending wrong too so I say we keep our eyes peeled. Like GA posted, hopefully we will get some good s/caps to sleuth it out. :Nod:

Wait, who are the 7 guys? I thought it was Shawn, Nick, Ben H, Jared, Chris, and Joe left, after Tanner, JJ, and Ben Z get eliminated. Who am I missing?

I also agree that I thought it was weird that there would be two episodes of just Shawn vs Nick, according to RS. I don't understand how he could have possibly not found out about Ben, though, if he had a hometown. And, I don't understand why they would do Shawn and Nick's hometowns in UT, but have Ben's a normal one? That seems strange to me. And, then it still brings up the dilemma of was anyone eliminated after the FS dates?

Yes, as Kasha said, we need SC's to get to the bottom of all this! :yes:
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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:24 pm

chasingpavements wrote:snipped...

Wait, who are the 7 guys? I thought it was Shawn, Nick, Ben H, Jared, Chris, and Joe left, after Tanner, JJ, and Ben Z get eliminated. Who am I missing?
Dublin = 9 guys
Killarney = 7 guys

RS was the one who said that there were 6 guys left at this point however, according to the synopsis there are 7 guys remaining.
So that leaves either Tanner or Ben Z remaining after JJ is possibly eliminated on 2on1.

The numbers are definitely off and until we get some s/caps no knowing for sure...

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Kaitlyn and nine bachelors continue their quest to find love in Dublin, Ireland, where one suitor sneaks up to her room for an intense confrontation. Later, Kaitlyn takes two guys to the island of Ireland's Eye for a date; and she tries to make up for past mistakes at the cocktail party. The next day, the seven remaining men travel with Kaitlyn to Killarney, Ireland.

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Post by emusha Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:34 pm

bleuberry wrote:
emusha wrote:Honestly Shawn needs to start stepping it up romance wise rather than keeping on confronting her at diff times in this journey.. We know tptb likely put him up to it esp after Nick sexgate but he's starting to come off as too high maintenance for the likes of K given he confronts her twice in the same set of days
I started out loving his greeting group hug and the sweet convo about his nieces -- now keep looking for things to be exicted about but I'm ending up not so thrilled about him -- he comes off as a producer puppet or as a high maintenance suitor who doesn't seem to be stepping it up but demanding a lot

If you like a girl show her!! Tell her why your worth it -- if you really feel so strongly see her as the prize you seem to think she is and be there for her show her why she should keep you around!!! Cmooon Shawn! This is a dating show where by design the girl is dating 25 dudes -- either make a point why u should be up top or stop complaining!

I had thought these multiple room confrontations had to do with Shawn being sex guy but it doesn't seem to be the case. I'm starting to think he's not as into k as he seems to think cos he questions her smarts and threatens to back down -- if a guy is soooo all in shouldn't he put up a fight for her not to dismiss him and to see him for the guy she's supposed to be with?? He nicknamed himself "bachelor Shawn" so how about remembering  that this is that show he's on & the way it works is the lead does what tuhey can to figure out who her f1 is...

IMHO

I see what you mean, but it's hard to know if what we're watching is a true depiction of what really happened. Are they leaving things on the editing room floor in order to achieve the 'story' they want. I'm more confused than ever this season! And it's kind  of making me disinterested again, I just wanna see how it ends and nothing in between laugh out loud.

I totally get you point and I even acknowledge that shawns confrontations could be producer driven but I'm thinking about what I'd feel if a guy acted this way questioning me without making effort above and beyond to make me feel special to let me know he would fight for me cos he thinks I'm worth all the hassle and he'll deal with my confusion and figuring it out....if I were K id swoon over is verbal declarations and the intent behind him giving me his shirt (Id not enjoy that actually if I admit honestly) but this dude signed up to date alongside 25 guys and for weeks he has to show not only say how invested he is ...questioning whether he can trust me, if I'm smart enough to deal with a "piece of sh*t" etc to me would make me feel like he doesn't actually respect my intellect or intuition or his ability to trust in my figuring it out

I would feel like he doesn't value my perspective when he disagrees with me esp if he also threatens to back down rather than try to prove to me that he should be his top guy...I'd start to question if he's only physically (and not in other ways) attracted to me. And that'd make me question if he really is that into me or if he's simply high on pheromones

Ok -- that's all jmo here
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Post by Alanna Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:48 pm

Emusha, I get what you're saying but none of us are K. Kait writes in her blog that Shawn makes her feel comfortable and relaxed, and she chose him in the end, so obviously either she's okay with what some perceive as his poor treatment (I don't agree personally) or that's not what's going on. Of course, jmo only.


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Post by Guest Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:10 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:
chasingpavements wrote:snipped...

Wait, who are the 7 guys? I thought it was Shawn, Nick, Ben H, Jared, Chris, and Joe left, after Tanner, JJ, and Ben Z get eliminated. Who am I missing?
Dublin = 9 guys
Killarney = 7 guys

RS was the one who said that there were 6 guys left at this point however, according to the synopsis there are 7 guys remaining.
So that leaves either Tanner or Ben Z remaining after JJ is possibly eliminated on 2on1.

The numbers are definitely off and until we get some s/caps no knowing for sure...

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Kaitlyn and nine bachelors continue their quest to find love in Dublin, Ireland, where one suitor sneaks up to her room for an intense confrontation. Later, Kaitlyn takes two guys to the island of Ireland's Eye for a date; and she tries to make up for past mistakes at the cocktail party. The next day, the seven remaining men travel with Kaitlyn to Killarney, Ireland.

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Ahhh, thanks! I guess I just have RS's spoilers stuck in my head. I think that he did get quite a bit wrong already about the next two episodes - he thought that five people went on that group date (when we know that it's six) and he thought that the Cranberries concert with Jared happens in next week's episode (when we know that it's actually this Monday's episode). Always, I'm guessing something super dramatic went down next week, if 7 guys begin in Killarney and only 3 advance to the FS dates.

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Post by BlackHalo Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:14 pm

I'm guessing Ben Z. is the 7th guy since Kaitlyn has spent no time with Tanner.

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Post by emusha Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:37 pm

Alanna wrote:Emusha, I get what you're saying but none of us are K. Kait writes in her blog that Shawn makes her feel comfortable and relaxed, and she chose him in the end, so obviously either she's okay with what some perceive as his poor treatment (I don't agree personally) or that's not what's going on. Of course, jmo only.

Oh yea! 100% it's K's call I just think it helps to put k's particular ACTIONS right next to Shawn's ACTIONs and consider how truly 'gone' and 'in love' they could be at this precise point given the behavior of both.
From simply observing the actions neither is as head over heels in unconditional love as the edit is making it seem. The edit of this show places such onus on the declarations and our view of the goings on is also tempered with info about the ending -- but I think both aren't sold and fighting for each other in the way the declarations and ending point toward. At least at this point in time. And I think that's a much more realistic situation for a relationship being formed on this show at least imho
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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:48 pm

Chasingpavements: Yup the numbers are different but RS never got the ending right either. Who knows... there could be more than 2 HTDs. We may have snapchat gate but there is still a lot to sleuth and figure out from here until FRC. So until we get some s/caps or other info we will just be guessing as to what goes down.. but if there are only 2 HTDs and it goes from 7 to 3 guys, then something dramatic happens to cause this.
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Post by GuardianAngel Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:25 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:Chasingpavements: Yup the numbers are different but RS never got the ending right either. Who knows... there could be more than 2 HTDs. We may have snapchat gate but there is still a lot to sleuth and figure out from here until FRC. So until we get some s/caps or other info we will just be guessing as to what goes down.. but if there are only 2 HTDs and it goes from 7 to 3 guys, then something dramatic happens to cause this.

IA - I think there were at least 3 HTD's. We had more than once source confirm there was filming in Ben's hometown which I believed occurred on April 28th. We had a source state that Nick's family was flying somewhere on the 27th. They may have went to Utah, along with Shawn's family or maybe for Shawn they met up with his buddy Ron. IDK but from the sleuthing and info we got, I think that's a possibility. Plus K was spotted at LAX on the 30th which indicates they were done with the HTD's.



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Post by sparkler Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:28 pm

I was a casual viewer this season until a week ago and I'm not sure I even know who Joshua and Justin are.

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Post by pavalygurl Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:36 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:IA. I've already forgotten half of what happened when the supposed RC comes along.
The whole show feels like one major cliffhanger at this point. hmmm

ITA I feel like it is hard to keep track of what is going on week to week.  It's kind of annoying and I too am sick of it.

I feel like we are missing so much content of times with the guys to have time for this forced drama and it's not entertaining.

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Post by Kashathediva Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:42 pm

Nothing is going on except, forced drama. It is very hard to have any kind of storyline, when all of sudden the focus is on packaged drama by the guy leaving. (being eliminated)  
If I were simply an casual viewer, I would think the only guys that mattered would be Nick and Shawn and anyone else is window dressing.



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