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Post by Idlemess Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:49 pm

Can I say that poor Todd was wasted in the shot. Zero chemistry. Eye contact all the way with Daniel(??) is that the right guy?


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Post by AllAboutLove Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:59 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:Look who is front and center on the large poster and Ali's face towards him with Mr Right...  Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen -  SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*  - Page 73 1f60a  Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen -  SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*  - Page 73 1f60d  Todd definitely the focal point 

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Bobette wrote:And once again, Taite's head positioned closest to Ali giggling

@Bobette Yep, the real life Ali standing closest to Taite - probably made sure she was on that side for that reason  laugh out loud (or to look at herself laugh out loud or both)

In the poster Ali it's Todd that's closest (enlarged close up). Very deliberate by TPTB to have it that way with her face facing Todd in the poster. If Todd's F2 like suspected then it may make what Osher said to Ali asking her if she is sure about her choice even more telling that Todd may have been who producers and crew loved most and for her Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen -  SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*  - Page 73 4256136633


ETA: I can't tell if real life Ali is looking at Todd or at herself (probably latter laugh out loud but could be him. Her eyes aren't high enough/head nit tilted high enough to be looking at Taite)  question


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Post by Agent99 Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:06 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:Mills & Boon photoshoot!


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Could they have been more obvious with the book titles? hehehe

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Post by AllAboutLove Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:08 pm

Could they have been more obvious with the book titles?
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laugh out loud no they couldn't have. Same as with the photoshoot and having Taite the only one getting a single and love shot with Ali. Mills & Boon only doing what TPTB want (like Sportsbet too  Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen -  SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*  - Page 73 2498057887 )
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Post by Bobette Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:09 pm

I can't believe they cut Lambchops!!! And Daniel who was meant to be her DATE in that scene. Actually, I can totally believe it. laugh out loud
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Post by Idlemess Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:27 pm

I’m sorry @Bobette but your Lambchops might be a bit of a hillbilly. You think Dan might try to be Ali’s savior and ends up the sacrificial lamb? Baaa haa!!!


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Post by Bobette Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:40 am

Idlemess wrote:I’m sorry @Bobette but your Lambchops might be a bit of a hillbilly. You think Dan might try to be Ali’s savior and ends up the sacrificial lamb? Baaa haa!!!

Ha haa yeah he's fully country isn't he.  Seems like a genuinely nice guy but was trying a bit too hard on that group date IMO.

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Could they have been more obvious with the book titles?  hehehe


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laugh out loud no they couldn't have. Same as with the photoshoot and having Taite the only one getting a single and love shot with Ali. Mills & Boon only doing what TPTB want (like Sportsbet too  Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen -  SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*  - Page 73 2498057887 )

Agreed - she clearly chose her F1 from the very beginning like so many Leads do, IMO.
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Post by Bobette Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:52 am

If Ali kills off the AU franchise before we get the opportunity for a whole season of Todd as Lead I'll be so pissed off!   :angryemotion

'It's hard to cheer on a cheater': The Bachelorette's second episode delivers the series' lowest ratings EVER as viewers turn on Ali Oetjen and the future of the show looks uncertain

The new season of The Bachelorette, starring Ali Oetjen, limped onto TV screens on Wednesday with extremely poor ratings.

And those audience numbers failed to improve on Thursday, with the second episode recording the lowest ratings ever in the history of the series.

The Network Ten show drew just 539,000 viewers on Thursday night in the five major cities, putting it well below programs such as the ABC Evening News (692,000) and Gogglebox (677,000).

So why are the ratings so bad this season?

David Knox, the editor of TV Tonight, told Daily Mail Australia on Friday that it may come down to star Ali Oetjen.

'You have to wonder if Ten painted themselves into a corner with the casting coup of Sophie Monk [star of The Bachelorette in 2017],' he said.

'She was so self-deprecating and good-humoured that viewers embraced her, warts and all. They pulled it off again with the Honey Badger [Nick Cummins, star of The Bachelor 2018], notably drawing in more male viewers.

'It was not surprising that viewers were underwhelmed with the announcement of Ali Oetjen who we have watched twice before [on The Bachelor in 2013 and Bachelor in Paradise in 2018].'

David added that the new season of The Bachelorette has aired too soon after The Bachelor - and Bachelor in Paradise before that - leading to viewer fatigue.

Meanwhile, fans have expressed anger at The Bachelorette's leading lady on social media and in website comment sections, blaming her scandalous past for the show's poor ratings.

Earlier this year, the 32-year-old account manager was publicly accused of cheating on her ex-boyfriend Grant Kemp. She has never denied his claims and it is understood the allegations will be addressed on The Bachelorette later this season.

One fan wrote online: 'It might be a bit hard for everyone to cheer on a cheater. Does she deserve to find love? It's a shame though because The Bachelorette tends to be more entertaining than The Bachelor. She's great / likeable on [the show], nonetheless. I'm keen to the contestants to ask her about Grant.'

Another commented: 'These low ratings are mainly due to Ali. Ten received nothing but negative comments after it was revealed that she is the new Bachelorette.'

It follows reports that, in the wake of CBS' takeover of Network Ten, The Bachelorette or The Bachelor (or both) could be axed as they are 'too similar' to one another to survive.

It was also claimed that CBS executives were closely 'observing' Ten programs and would be deciding carefully which shows are renewed in 2019.

However, a Network Ten spokesperson told Daily Mail Australia in August: 'The claim that we think the shows are too similar and that there is only room for one is naïve and false.'

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Post by Sundy Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:22 am

@Bobette we all called it. Ali as lead is BAD news. If only tptb took what we say seriously they would see without fail we have been correct in what the public would like to see. Maybe it’s because we are the public Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen -  SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*  - Page 73 3806527698

Ali’s inauthenticity stands out a mile and I am just left feeling cheated. I did with Nick too. Oh poo
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Post by Bobette Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:52 am

@Sundy Yup not a good choice.  I'm quietly impressed that all the people on social media who said they'd boycott her season apparently actually DID (oh to have that kind of willpower!!!  Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen -  SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*  - Page 73 3806527698 )


I just hope the franchise survives 2018 - with Nick's debacle and now people not turning up for Ali, it could mean the end.  Then all my IG "research" would go back to being plain old stalking.  cantstopl
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Post by Sundy Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:54 am

Yup you just sadly have to look at this forum. It feels like there are only a few of us left and we have visitors who pop in and out but nothing like a few years ago. It’s a little sad really
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Post by Bobette Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:08 am

The saddest part is, it would actually be really easy to save the franchise IMO if they would just pay attention to feedback.  

- Forget celebrity Leads entirely (however well liked, they'll always have their own agenda and image to protect/promote).  

- LISTEN to the public about who they want as returnees (not just who's the easiest meat puppet for them to manipulate).  

- Cast more than 1-2 decent people who are actually compatible with/interested in the Lead. Less weirdos and less bitches.  

- SHOW the love story between the Lead and F1 instead of hiding it because they don't want to give away the ending.  

- Go back to being more passive, fly-on-the-wall instead of manufacturing fake drama and over-producing contestants.

- DITCH THE PLAYBOOK.  Stop following the same obvious formula regarding editing, order of dates, dress colour etc...


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