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grace8136 wrote:

eliza3 wrote:

grace8136 wrote:JBF- If they were following a storyline, Chris was not fully in on it or filled in on it until after the proposal IMO. He has such a dejected look on his face at one point on the boat to Madeira. But in the proposal, he says they shared their feeling in Madeira, probably in the garden after he told her he loved her she gave him some reassurance. Also, in Munich I will always want to know what she said while giving him the rose and then he said, "I'll pretend I didn't hear that, that's unmentionable, thank you thank you"


I just watched the date in Madeira again and I didn't see the point where he looked dejected.  Can you point me to that part please?
Thanks

Not on their date, on the boat to Madeira. Sorry for the confusion. Start around 1:12.  Another semi-interesting thing was that Brooks and Drew sat down with their legs hanging over the edge, leaving Des and Chris in the same spot as before.

soccermom333 wrote:It's shocking what is being said in some other threads !!:shocked!: :shocked!: :shocked!:   I need to stay on the positive threads about Chris and Des!  Okay back to this awesome discussion thread. Keep the thoughts and opinions coming!  Btw.... Love Chris's latest tweet!  He's a keeper for sure!  Glad Des knows it too!! ;)

JBF wrote:The editors did more work than he did.

He certainly wasn't fully aware of anything early in the season (i.e. he was like Jim Carrey in The Truman Show not understanding where that light-bulb fell from), which may explain why so much of his footage was cut out. Especially if the whole "skeptic coming into this" scenario is to be believed and he hardly looked skeptical in the beginning. No past F1 was so hidden in episode #1, not even Catherine. They still needed to blur his grin in the dance scene in episode #3... and hide her face as much as possible so she wouldn't look any more "animated" than she was with Brooks after his hospital return. Again, that episode's dodgeball date is worth analyzing frame by frame carefully.

The whispering in Munich was a real curio, but I think you nailed the words. It was not about The Rose with him even if he felt a week earlier that his poem might "earn" him one. Maybe she told him to think "future" and not roses? You know he didn't miss her facial reaction to his "Feelings eternal if you choose me". You do NOT see that expression on any of her other dates... in addition to her reaction to his ILY in Madeira.

Most of the PI sessions that look like he is trying to remember lines occur after Madeira, which makes me suspect either a.) he knew he was The One by that stage or b.) was willing to think so regardless of the potential heartbreak. He has huge grin on his face when Juan Pablo got sacked in Barcelona... and was looking at Brooks too grinning. In fact, he grins often when Brooks gets called in rose ceremonies. For some reason, he never looked that threatened by Brooks. Even in Madeira when he says he sees the connection, he says "I guess everyone should be somewhat nervous"... but there isn't a whole lot of nervousness in his voice or mannerisms.

BachNoFoolMe wrote:

JBF wrote:The editors did more work than he did.

He certainly wasn't fully aware of anything early in the season (i.e. he was like Jim Carrey in The Truman Show not understanding where that light-bulb fell from), which may explain why so much of his footage was cut out. Especially if the whole "skeptic coming into this" scenario is to be believed and he hardly looked skeptical in the beginning. No past F1 was so hidden in episode #1, not even Catherine. They still needed to blur his grin in the dance scene in episode #3... and hide her face as much as possible so she wouldn't look any more "animated" than she was with Brooks after his hospital return. Again, that episode's dodgeball date is worth analyzing frame by frame carefully.

The whispering in Munich was a real curio, but I think you nailed the words. It was not about The Rose with him even if he felt a week earlier that his poem might "earn" him one. Maybe she told him to think "future" and not roses? You know he didn't miss her facial reaction to his "Feelings eternal if you choose me". You do NOT see that expression on any of her other dates... in addition to her reaction to his ILY in Madeira.

Most of the PI sessions that look like he is trying to remember lines occur after Madeira, which makes me suspect either a.) he knew he was The One by that stage or b.) was willing to think so regardless of the potential heartbreak. He has huge grin on his face when Juan Pablo got sacked in Barcelona... and was looking at Brooks too grinning. In fact, he grins often when Brooks gets called in rose ceremonies. For some reason, he never looked that threatened by Brooks. Even in Madeira when he says he sees the connection, he says "I guess everyone should be somewhat nervous"... but there isn't a whole lot of nervousness in his voice or mannerisms.

There was also the issue with their kisses.....the edit showed more short smooches. Yet...he says he felt how she felt about him in her kisses....makes me think the edit definately left out some tongue exchanges or those were taking place in the panning out of the camera. 

soccermom333 wrote:It's shocking what is being said in some other threads !!:shocked!: :shocked!: :shocked!:   I need to stay on the positive threads about Chris and Des!  Okay back to this awesome discussion thread. Keep the thoughts and opinions coming!  Btw.... Love Chris's latest tweet!  He's a keeper for sure!  Glad Des knows it too!! ;)

grace8136 wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:It's shocking what is being said in some other threads !!:shocked!: :shocked!: :shocked!:   I need to stay on the positive threads about Chris and Des!  Okay back to this awesome discussion thread. Keep the thoughts and opinions coming!  Btw.... Love Chris's latest tweet!  He's a keeper for sure!  Glad Des knows it too!! ;)

Anyone who calls their fellow posters delusional deserves to be banned. So disrespectful, hopefully the mods will catch it. I find that those types of people are the exception to the rule here. It's generally a happy place where we can share all our insights and observations. I'll quote Ryan again...

Ryan Bowers ‏@RyanBowers22

It's a fun show to watch but u never know what's real. Even if ur on it. Amazing experience & Jef and Emily r grt ppl. U can't believe TV

dw_a_mom wrote:May I say that I think it is a shame that a guy like Chris can only get a fraction of the Twitter follows a guy like Jef can get?  Well ... I hope it will bode better for Chris and Des to not have as many intrusive fans.

bleuberry wrote:

dw_a_mom wrote:May I say that I think it is a shame that a guy like Chris can only get a fraction of the Twitter follows a guy like Jef can get?  Well ... I hope it will bode better for Chris and Des to not have as many intrusive fans.

How many selfies do you think will get him there?  

JBF wrote:Grace8136, Chris always looks like that when he has "to share my time with Des"... LOL! Going to the yacht he was so happy she was "all mine". Go! Go! Go! Mine! Mine! Mine!

Hey, soccermom, everybody views these shows with different glasses... and I always liked Brooks even if I didn't quite see "IT" between him and Des like I did with Baseball Boy.

Funny thing... looking back at this silly and weird season:

I initially thought, after Reality Steve unveiled the first 20 or so guys, that Zack Kalter would be F1. We officially learned he got the sack... two weeks after Atlantic City.

Then I moved on to the other baseball dude Chris (since Des had a "fetish" for those) with Drew as my second choice.

I actually tried my best to believe the spoilers were right after Reality Steve confirmed them, but was struggling a lot with the EDIT... not so much with Brooks himself. When murasaki PMed me asking if it was silly to keep championing Chris, I said "why not... as long as you aren't upset if the spoilers are right". Yet even I couldn't stop scratching my head by episode #3.

Episode #5 and her "He's everything that I could want in a husband" is what convinced me the spoiler sources were fleissed and I was stuck on Chris as F1 from then on.

Went over my messages stash...

Late in the season we had that additional spoiler confirming RS was right about Brooks as F1 and mursaki PMed me on August 1st:

"this sucks...but on the brighter side, i just wanna say, its been an awesome ride enjoying this season with you."

I responded with the following:

Every season we get curve-balls trying to confuse everybody...

NO. I do not believe Brooks is F1... YET.

I need more evidence than any spoiler that Mike Fleiss can easily fake.

Here is brother Nate on twitter and from the sound of it, he is NOT seeing Brooks as F1 here any more than I am.

Yesterday…. Big Brother

Mark Doucette ‏@MDoucette12
@nate_hartsock83 How bad do you wanna fight Brooks after watching him ditch desiree?

Nathanael Hartsock ‏@nate_hartsock83
@MDoucette12 Not at all, at least it seemed like he was telling the truth. He just wasn't that into her, like she was into him.

Today

Melanie Madrid ‏@MelanieNmm 20h
@nate_hartsock83 @MDoucette12 Did you see the video footage of his return next week? Is it accurate?

Nathanael Hartsock ‏@nate_hartsock83
@MelanieNmm No, I didn't see any video of his return..

Sooooooooooo... let everybody on the forum believe what they want. If you like, you can prepare yourself for Chris getting dumped if it makes you feel nervous.

I still follow that motto: "let everybody on the forum believe what they want." I don't debate with people. I will give my reasons why I believe what I believe, but I am not that stubborn not to read what the opposition has to say... since, yes, I am wrong many times.

Now... as fate would have it, the day before finale time, the dude I initially thought would be F1 back in April... Zack Kalter... responded to Chris' instagram poem agreeing with another response that he was looking forward to watching Chris' proposal tomorrow. That was The Clue that another contestant KNEW the end result ahead of time... or was pretty confident in his "vibe".

So this whole silly season came full circle for me... LOL! Of course, I would have never guessed he would be involved in that poetry book as well...