Re: Bachelorette 10 Filming Schedule - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion Thread #2

[Guest]

Me too!

[SueSt]

Anyway... let's assume time stamps are correct

4/11: 1-on-1Date  = Marcus Grodd  (the central square of Brussels in front of the Grand Place - confirmed by picture
Sneaky 1-1 for Nick
4/12: 1-on-1 Date  =  Josh - time stamps (if reliable)
4/13: Group Date  = (4-on-1) Brian, Chris, Dylan , Nick (gets GDR and added time) - no confirmed date
4/14: 7th Rose Ceremony - no confirmed date
Eliminated: Brian Osborne, Dylan Petitt

Now if they leave on a plane from Bruxelles at 10.45am on the 15th... they would land in Philly that same day at 1.15pm local time, even have a connection to Milwaukee from there arriving in Milwaukee at 4.16pm.

A killer on the jet lag... but no way do they need 2 days travel...
Not saying they didnt, just trying to work with what we've got!

That's interesting to me... and forgive me for my overactive imagination this morning, but looking at what comes after they leave Bruxelles - that might mean Andi AND Nick travel on to Milwaukee together!!!... and it reminded me of Meredith and Ian... that she left her HTD and followed him to his hotel... Not saying it happened, but given the scenario with the two of them travelling together (less likely where she's just showing up at a location), is it possible that they have some kind of tryst in Milwaukee? thoughts?

[sdmom]

Just found a video!!!

Posted on 4/17, so will try and find out when it was filmed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lboRye_BPNk

Ghent goose parade, at the very start, you can see a camera man in the middle of the street.
Cannot see Andi and Josh, but given the date...

Very good find indeed! Please let us know if the video taker resopnds.

[GuardianAngel]

Favouritism tends to cloud sleuthing. Whether the favourite is the F1 or not, it's the result of the sleuthing that makes it all worthwhile. If the result of the sleuthing determines the favourite IS in fact the F1, then job well done, either way, all is good.

[nutty1]

Sorry I am confused....I have company and try to peek in when I could. Are you trying to figure out who had what date when?

And what is the question of flying back home?

Thanks so much!   

[richmondrose]

If Josh had his date on the 12th,  where does that leave  the group date? The HTD were up next and the exact dates were confirmed by RS.

Episode 7- Belgium(Brussels)(6-4)

4/10: 1-on-1 Date  =  Josh
4/11: 1-on-1Date  = Marcus Grodd  (the central square of Brussels in front of the Grand Place - confirmed by picture
4/12: Group Date  = (4-on-1)Brian, Chris, Dylan , Nick
4/13: 7th Rose Ceremony
Eliminated: Brian Osborne, Dylan Petitt

4/14: travel
4/15: travel

Episode 8- HTD (4-3)

4/16: Date #1-Nick (Milwaukee WI)
4/17: travel
4/18: Date# 2-Chris (Arlington, Iowa)
4/19: travel
4/20: Date #3-Josh (Tampa, Florida)
4/21: travel
4/22: Date# 4- Marcus(Dallas, Texas)
4/23: HTD Rose Ceremony
Eliminated:

RS? The guy who said Marcus was getting the Geese date right?   

Anyway... let's assume time stamps are correct

4/11: 1-on-1Date  = Marcus Grodd  (the central square of Brussels in front of the Grand Place - confirmed by picture
Sneaky 1-1 for Nick
4/12: 1-on-1 Date  =  Josh - time stamps (if reliable)
4/13: Group Date  = (4-on-1) Brian, Chris, Dylan , Nick (gets GDR and added time) - no confirmed date
4/14: 7th Rose Ceremony - no confirmed date
Eliminated: Brian Osborne, Dylan Petitt

Now if they leave on a plane from Bruxelles at 10.45am on the 15th... they would land in Philly that same day at 1.15pm local time, even have a connection to Milwaukee from there arriving in Milwaukee at 4.16pm.

A killer on the jet lag... but no way do they need 2 days travel...
Not saying they didnt, just trying to work with what we've got!

I believe that Nick's date had a dancing video which was posted by someone  other than RS  confirming it to have taken place on April 16th.
The only information confirmed is that Marcus had his date on April 11. Until we have time stamps for the group date and Josh date, there is no way of predicting accurately the order of the dates in Belgium. For all we know it could have been:

group date
Marcus
Josh
***
Marcus
Josh
group date
***
Marcus
group date
Josh

ETA: and since we still haven't determined the location of the Ghost reenactment, Chris could be in the mix too.   

[Guest]

Favouritism tends to cloud sleuthing. Whether the favourite is the F1 or not, it's the result of the sleuthing that makes it all worthwhile. If the result of the sleuthing determines the favourite IS in fact the F1, then job well done, either way, all is good.

  ^^
As well, 'favoritism' is difficult to assess and define in terms of this show.
There is fan-girling which is favouring one person based upon one's own likes and dislikes. In other words "This is the one I would choose for me if I was the lead'.
Then there is 'observation favourites' based upon the person we see as being the best fit for the lead, which incidentally is always biased by our own perceptions of what love is, affection is and what meaningful relationships consist of (usually based upon our own experience and value systems)

Not to mention, that all of this is then clouded by the fabricated edit of masterful storytellers and entertainment wizards.

Sleuthing for the 'facts and nothing but the facts' is difficult since many of us also question the validity of the 'facts' we have received or searched out for ourselves.
Is this a 'red herring'?
Will this lead me on a 'wild goose chase'?
Are the decisions I am making based upon assumptions ?
Have I been building a hypothesis on solid facts all along or is one piece of building-block information incorrect?

I try not to have any favourites, either by fan-girling or observation.
Personally, I usually mess up when I have heard some info from a 'reliable' source' (imo reliable), base a theory and make assumptions upon that info, and then run with it. NOT good sleuthing.  
I did that briefly, early on this season, based upon some info I received from a reliable source… still not sure if my source is right or not, or possibly half right.  
But once you have that piece of 'inside info', from someone who was right in the past, it can cloud your vision for sleuthing.
I believe this applies to the spoilers from RS as well.
It is very difficult to remain truly unbiased.

In any case, I enjoy the sleuthing and fun that this board provides. Thanks to the team!     

[nd4reality]

JR - I do remember you posting about something you heard but cannot for the life of me remember though I am curious.

RS and his reliable sources have not had a 100% batting average on this season - already proven here by sleuthing. So onwards and upwards.

[luvlady345]

RS is not a sleuther though, so to him timestamps, flights etc., doesn't matter. For me RS is just one part of the picture.

[2observe]

Thanks! I am soooo trying to be sleuthing unbiased... it's hard though!

Can I just give you a    .

I have noticed your efforts and think its commendable. There are a few others that are trying to as well though it is obvious that they are fighting the favoritism.

I second that ND.  

[umngirl]

Anyway... let's assume time stamps are correct

4/11: 1-on-1Date  = Marcus Grodd  (the central square of Brussels in front of the Grand Place - confirmed by picture
Sneaky 1-1 for Nick
4/12: 1-on-1 Date  =  Josh - time stamps (if reliable)
4/13: Group Date  = (4-on-1) Brian, Chris, Dylan , Nick (gets GDR and added time) - no confirmed date
4/14: 7th Rose Ceremony - no confirmed date
Eliminated: Brian Osborne, Dylan Petitt

Now if they leave on a plane from Bruxelles at 10.45am on the 15th... they would land in Philly that same day at 1.15pm local time, even have a connection to Milwaukee from there arriving in Milwaukee at 4.16pm.

A killer on the jet lag... but no way do they need 2 days travel...
Not saying they didnt, just trying to work with what we've got!

That's interesting to me... and forgive me for my overactive imagination this morning, but looking at what comes after they leave Bruxelles - that might mean Andi AND Nick travel on to Milwaukee together!!!... and it reminded me of Meredith and Ian... that she left her HTD and followed him to his hotel...  Not saying it happened, but given the scenario with the two of them travelling together (less likely where she's just showing up at a location), is it possible that they have some kind of tryst in Milwaukee?  thoughts?

It's my understanding that the lead an contestants don't fly on the same plane. Now whether Nick would again try to sneak out and visit Andi after his HTD is another story. I believe I remember JP talking about getting caught trying to sneak over to Ashley after his HTD. But with Nick it would just feel like another producer ploy as he's been quite easily manipulated by them/allowed to sneak off if in fact any of that has his idea.

[GuardianAngel]

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Sleuthing for the 'facts and nothing but the facts' is difficult since many of us also question the validity of the 'facts' we have received or searched out for ourselves.

In any case, I enjoy the sleuthing and fun that this board provides. Thanks to the team!     

Great post Jordyn! If I may add, it also depends on the personality of the sleuther. If they have the ability to set aside the fan girling and spoilers, file it under misc for now, it helps tremendously. OTOH, the spoilers are also a good opportunity to sleuth to determine if it is correct or not.

The possible new information regarding the filming schedule is one example of how quickly information can change, if it were not for the efforts of the sleuthers.   

The edit thread has a lot of fantastic reference information comparing season to season, we can't forget that! (just to confuse our brains even more! )

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