Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion #2

Sometimes you reap what you sew. (pun intended)

I have a hard time to feeling sorry for someone who lied through their teeth because TPTB told her to. She takes orders well from them, just like she did on her season. She didn't want Nick there so she could have one last spot in the limelight and not have anything overshadow her presence on a Red Carpet.

If that were me, you would have no doubt there was something wrong, just by the way I would behave. Being under contract and being forced to be there is one thing, putting on a act to fool the viewers is another.

I feel sorry for her because she hasn't realized through out all this the meaning of being humble and #blessed.

Josh was there too though, it goes both way

When you sell a pound of flesh to MF, it's going to hurt.
I don't think I can recall a main who has come out of this completely unscathed. Perhaps Yawn, but even he got some static. Not much, though.

Josh looked really uncomfortable though and like he just wanted to get through it with as little said as possible. Andi made a whole show of it. That AH interview with her being all hyper waving the ring to the camera? I mean really?! I have no doubt that that broke the camel's back so to speak. Josh looked so put off by her act.

I haven't seen that one

Diana wrote:Josh was there too though, it goes both way

For sure IA. To me, I could clearly tell something was up with him. The pic with them at dinner/her parents? The distance between them, her facial expression and his facial expression, the plane pic, and the limo pic, not to mention the number of times he frowned when he was looking at Andi while she spoke. The way he stumbled with his words, and when he walked away and Andi stopped to fix her shoe, he didn't even look back to see what she was doing.

Andi on the other hand, had no problem, laughing and flinging her head back like she did so many times during her season. Or pausing, with her hand on her chin, thinking about an answer that she was asked. There was a difference IMO between doing what you have to do, and putting on an act, that's what I was trying to get at if it was me.

I looked again at the limo pic- Josh's eyes looked different. I do think it is possible he had been crying.

GuardianAngel wrote:

Diana wrote:Josh was there too though, it goes both way

For sure IA. To me, I could clearly tell something was up with him. The pic with them at dinner/her parents? The distance between them, her facial expression and his facial expression, the plane pic, and the limo pic, not to mention the number of times he frowned when he was looking at Andi while she spoke. The way he stumbled with his words, and when he walked away and Andi stopped to fix her shoe, he didn't even look back to see what she was doing.

Andi on the other hand, had no problem, laughing and flinging her head back like she did so many times during her season. Or pausing, with her hand on her chin, thinking about an answer that she was asked. There was a difference IMO between doing what you have to do, and putting on an act, that's what I was trying to get at if it was me.

Exactly! If I were Josh I would've ripped that ring off her finger right there and then and went to hand it back to Neil Lane, because I would be mortified to be with someone so fake.

You know guys if you had said this to me months ago I would have defended Andi to the grave because I was a die hard fan of the two. But seeing the charade she put on, the comments from the co-stars in the E article and hearing you'll give reference to other things she has done, I have to admit, I was wrong about Andi. I'm really ashamed of what I am seeing now and how I defended her in the past. Josh was right, put an end quickly. I really now don't want them to get back together unless she goes back to Andi 1.0 and eat humble pie. I would love to see if Hy still thinks of his daughter as "spectacular" now. I'm curious to know Nikki's thoughts as well because, in her interview with CH she was saying that JPG loved the limelight and the entertainment industry and that was not her thing and she couldn't fit into that world. Based on that statement alone, I'm wondering now how are Nikki and Andi even friends? In a parallel universe Nikki and Josh could have hooked up - he likes blondes, she just wants to live a regular life...not a bad thing.

In light of things, I want to go back and watch their portion again. I felt something was off, but it will be interesting to watch again.

I didn't follow Josh or Andi at all…not on Twitter, IG, didn't tea their threads. Did anyone have any suspicions before Monday? Was anything off?

Well they stopped posting a lot about each other on SM despite spending the holidays with their families and when he stopped wearing the yellow ribbon, we all figured that it had finally lost it's touch but looking back maybe that's when things started to go wrong, back in early December or so. Also after Monday, noticed how different Josh was acting but we didn't think anything about it until now. We were all in the "bubble" yet weren't expecting anything to happen so soon or at all IMO.