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Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - Sleuthing Spoilers #7

[mention]Kindnesscounts[/mention] wrote:
[mention]smg2587[/mention] wrote:Man the guys from this season hopeful can handle the Jed questions that are about to come their way. Honestly I think only Dylan (who is in an uncomfortable position all things considering) and Mike are the only ones that may be able to handle it. Note guys don't do what Kevin just did on twitter. First of all he is not going to MTA. He says because military commitments but I think its because he tends to spoil everything he didn't get an invite. First tweet he says Haley has shown no proof and thinks she is a jealous ex. And went fans start asking about her proof he is all the sudden Switzerland. Also note to Kevin and all the guys, Jed can be your best friend but still treat women poorly. It is not mutually exclusive. Also you knew him for 4-6 weeks max (the guys defending Jed) in an unnatural setting. How much do you really know about him. It like saying you knew that kid from summer camp this past summer wouldn't cheat on someone. You don't. You know a sample size. All jmho.

Just to add I don't mind them saying they will wait to here Jed's side. But they can't say Haley hasn't shown some proof or call her a crazy ex is not going to look good in my eyes. I don't mind real Switzerland's in this case but Kevin wasn't being that.

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Ummm.. and how long have you or any of us known Jed? Or Haley? Or Tyler? Or any of the cast members for that matter. I think Kevin has us there! These are people we know ONLY through edited tv, social media and/or someone else’s perspective. I For one, think it’s important to remember that. Whether or not I agree with what is tweeted, I applaud Kevin and anyone who stands up for a friend and their own views - particularly going against ruthless Bach nation fans And I for one, am looking forward to hearing everyone’s viewpoint. I may or may not then decide to believe it.‍� This is simply my opinion.
* Btw Jed is not my fav- I’m a Tyler fan these days but I’m also a fairness for everyone fan... I know I know what about Hannah? .. well.. I think she’ll get her say in the end too - Everyone, including Hannah made choices ... I trust she’ll make sure everyone gets the right consequences for those said choices.

this is rarely taken under consideration IMO.

Rooting for X but not Y is often IMO bases on personal physical taste. From day 1, it is all about the look, all about the

After that it is only a 10 min 1-1, few min here and there. It is all about physical IMO

It is all superficial. Seeing him 10 min edited on his 1-1, then kisses after kisses with no serious conversation. Nobody knows the contestants and it always amazes me to read on SM what they thought or did etc when they were 1/ not there and2/ are complete strangers and 3/ the show is under the category of TV reality.

This is why most of the time, my interest with this show stops at the finale and a few days after on GMA and Kimmel. Then a week later, everyone is already forgotten. Many times I rooted for one contestant and it happened that this contestant was a complete jerk. So now I am entertained watching the heavy edited show. I consider a good season if I see a love story and the ending match with my sleuthing.

This season, SM with RS, Halley and rag mags, have spoiled my fun. I am a viewer, I do not know those guys, I have no idea who is saying the truth, who is strongly edited, what their motive are 1 month 1/2 after the FRC. All I know is this hate that goes so strong this year for Jed and Luke that I decided to do not look on SM anymore. zero interest.

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Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - Sleuthing Spoilers #3

I think it is moot. I honestly believe all guys got the chance to speak between saliva exchanging

Faith is important for her and her top 4 are Christians. {#}fact{/#}

Bachelorette Australia - Ali Oetjen Season 4 - NO SPOILERS - SLEUTHING Discussion*

Now this is funny because when Nathan was totally speechless when Ali rejected him, one of his saying was:

did you speak to Bill??

Vimeo.

ALL the guys were uneasy about this drama. Robert, Taite, Bill.... and I am thinking that half, if not most, of the guys were in the pool talking about it. And I think they saved their A$$ by targetting Nathan who took it for the team

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my conclusion...

I totally dislike Charlie.
I totally dislike Bill

I am not impressed and on the fence with Taite
I do not like Robert

Where was Todd?

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Bachelor Canada Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Media SM - Sleuthing Spoilers - #2

LoveDovez wrote:
tatladylu wrote:The one thing that strikes me is the camaraderie among the women. It's wonderful to see that they were so supportive and caring of each other. Yah, girl power!

I just get this feeling that RS spoiler is true now and Chris didn't take a chance. Sad really for everyone

I'm of two minds about this.

In the Bach world if he doesn't pick Lindsey I will always wonder if he just choose Mik as second choice or as the easier route to take.. Neither of the 3 of them deserve this. IMHO you don't go from something is missing, to being fully in love, no questions asked, ready to marry somebody that 2 weeks earlier you knew there was something missing and you didn't know if you could get there with her, but you had to keep her hanging on because you were getting paid for a show that demanded this while this other love already had your heart so much that you couldn't sleep at night...

In the real world, I'm on the fence about wanting him to pick Lindsey because I think she can do better. As young as she is there will be plenty of men in her future. None of which she will have to watch on TV trying to figure out if he loves her more than the other chick on a TV show or having to worry that he will one day resent her for having to pack up and move away from his family. Also, a guy that already has his sh*t together and knows what he wants to do with his life before becoming 33 years old.

It's like we are seeing Ben 2.0 where he is "in" love with one girl and 'loves" the other one and he can't figure out the difference.. Give me my choice and I will pick the guy that's in love with me over the one that loves me. It's like having a great pair of shoes that are out of this world that you are in love with, but then you know you still have that old broke in, half worn out pair that feels sooooooo much better.. Choices Choices.. They make the world go around. lolol

Mik even said that she didn't know if he could go from being so unsure of her and not there yet to being so in love with him. She said that on FD's which I think we all know from looking at the filming schedule that it was 5 days before the finale at best. How in the haides can you go from being all in and gaga over Lyndsey to saying that he's thinking something is missing with Mikaela to 5 days later choosing Mikaela. That makes no sense, IMO. He's been all in with Lyndsey since epi 5.

BlackHalo wrote:I don't see Chris as any different than these other guys caught up in lust thinking they are actually in love. He's immature. If the RS spoiler is right I think he is grateful to his parents for showing him the light. It blows my mind she is unwillingly to compromise on Toronto when her family was so icy to him. How is he supposes to be comfortable with that? JMO.

If her family was that icy and cold then why in the hell did the guy stay filming with just the family or 10 hrs. He also filmed more with Lyndsey and the grandfather. This part of the HIGHLY EDITED version that you are talking about is just that extremely edited, chopped up several ways from sunday. IMO, the time that he had with the family in real terms was far less cold and icy.

HEA wrote:why sad? sad for lindsey fans if he does not pick her but not sad for mikaela fans if he picked her.

right now all i read (including myself) is JUST ASSUMPTIONS about how he felt. There is absolutely ZERO NADA proof that Lindsey was his favorite. I heard many words said by him to both girls and it would be totally ridiculous to be selective and remove the LOVE STORY because it was clearly said out loud AND directly to her... not during any PI with cut and edits.

It is way too easy to dismiss something that does not fit in one scenario because then we have to revise our "I know for a fact that it is" position and admit we are wrong.

For me, we have absolutely NO IDEA if he fell in love with Mikaeala from the start and Lindsey was always F2, regardless of the words he said. No words is stronger than the other for 1. and we have no idea if chris said the same thing for the other but we never get the chance to hear them for 2.

what we see is not what happened. #fact

based on this, i think we should be way more cautious about the SECOND CHOICE or SAFE ROAD.

all i know is that I want to hear the part 2, THEN decide if Mikaela was the love of his life and maybe.... just maybe, he is still with mikaela today.

we.do.not.know. because we are not either chris, or lindsey or mikaeala. nobody was there during the fantasy night to kiss and tell either.

MY opinion as usual

Lyndsey was also told the love story directly from Chris to her. IMO, claiming it only happened with Mikaela may is wrong. Chris said it to Lyndsey directly as well so claiming it was only with Mikaela isn't right.

Sprite wrote:
northernviewer wrote:I think a really big part of the equation is getting overlooked .... this is the Bachelor, its a produced tv show that has to follow a formula. The lead HAS to say that they’re falling in love, and they HAVE to say that each one is special, and they HAVE to let only a few go at a time when they’d really probably let 15 go first night and the rest with the exception of 2 or 3 the next day. If Chris is saying the same thing about a few girls, then they’re probably the only lines he remembers from the script. He’s not an actor .... he’s a baseball player that thought it would be fun to go on a glorified dating site to find a girl to date. The girls are doing the same, looking for an adventure and if lucky maybe meet a guy to date. Feelings eventually get a little more involved and feelings get hurt. I don’t blame the “players” ... I blame the “game”. The lead picks the one that gives them butterflies .... and thats about the only real thing about this reality show ... they don’t pick the one that viewers think is best for them, when watching something that happened .... 6months ago...

Yup.

We are now down to two. With one there is something missing and with the other there are butterflies. That was very specific to these to women. Which ever way people see the story, with a typical edit this is a sign that the something missing is F2 and butterflies is F1. That is just the way these shows work....regardless who I think is my favourite....and actually I'm not really liking anyone all that much this season. That is how things are typically edited. Of course, producers could always change things up, but that is the typical edit.

I agree, with editing, the something missing is ALWAYS the F2. With the butterflies, that has always been the F1. That and more of the edit with the dates, the stats, how the editing tricks worked from Bach Can seasons. IMO, those things line up with the butterflies person which in this case is Lyndsey, IMO.

Sprite wrote:
HEA wrote:^^ then we are talking in circle because for me the girl after the meet and greet that was upfront because of her 1-1 on episode 2 was Lindsey. Everyone thought of her as an early favorite... and this is, as per my experience, often the signs of the F2.

the most talked about
the most obvious
the early favorite
the lead acting as cray cray about her
the nice sweet next door girl that appeal to the majority of viewers

that is for me the definition of the F2 and I can list a couple of girls who wore the same shoes on previous franchises.

jmo

Actually, the one the lead picks isn't necessarily the one that is the most talked about or the most obvious. Depending on the lead, they may also not act all crazy about her and she definitely does not have to have to be the nice, sweet, next door girl that appeals to the majority of viewers...Ahem...Courtney, Vienna.

For me the typical F1 is the one the lead is chasing. Producers can play with the cast and the edits and all the rest of it to mess with viewers, but they have always shown the lead chasing the one they want.

April, season 2 had her first alone time with Tim after the group date in epi 2, Bianka had her alone time with Brad in epi 2 and epi 3, Kevin with Jasmine had their special alone time in epi 2 and first date in epi 3. So far in the Canadian series, the F1 has their time with the lead early on. They are the fave.

Chgohighlife wrote:
Sprite wrote:
HEA wrote:^^ then we are talking in circle because for me the girl after the meet and greet that was upfront because of her 1-1 on episode 2 was Lindsey. Everyone thought of her as an early favorite... and this is, as per my experience, often the signs of the F2.

the most talked about
the most obvious
the early favorite
the lead acting as cray cray about her
the nice sweet next door girl that appeal to the majority of viewers

that is for me the definition of the F2 and I can list a couple of girls who wore the same shoes on previous franchises.

jmo

Actually, the one the lead picks isn't necessarily the one that is the most talked about or the most obvious. Depending on the lead, they may also not act all crazy about her and she definitely does not have to have to be the nice, sweet, next door girl that appeals to the majority of viewers...Ahem...Courtney, Vienna.

For me the typical F1 is the one the lead is chasing. Producers can play with the cast and the edits and all the rest of it to mess with viewers, but they have always shown the lead chasing the one they want.

We're back where we started because I honestly do not see him "chasing" either girl. I see him happy to be with each of them whenever he is and making the most of it. I see honesty from both of them and the effort from him to match their verbal intensity even if he has to go back to his quote collection for a rerun. JMO

Well, IMO, chasing means the lead making the advances. With Lyndsey, he goes in for the kisses, he makes the advances, affection with Lyndsey but with Mikaela, it is HER that makes the advances, goes in for kisses, initiates the affection. With Lyndsey, Chris ran to meet up with her on her HTD:

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IMO, it is Chris initiating about 95% of the affection with Lyndsey and about 10% of the affection with Mikaela. That is what I mean as chasing the lead.

Sprite wrote:
HEA wrote:
Sprite wrote:

Actually, the one the lead picks isn't necessarily the one that is the most talked about or the most obvious. Depending on the lead, they may also not act all crazy about her and she definitely does not have to have to be the nice, sweet, next door girl that appeals to the majority of viewers...Ahem...Courtney, Vienna.

For me the typical F1 is the one the lead is chasing. Producers can play with the cast and the edits and all the rest of it to mess with viewers, but they have always shown the lead chasing the one they want.

BenF was a big azz who had sex during their dipping...... and the other guy was a major azz as we all recall how he acted on cameras after the show with vienna........ ahem.... not really good example of happy endings IMO

there is only ONE segment that make people think he was chasing her is the HANG ON. and for me he just wanted to kiss her because, yes, she was her top 2.

if we truly take the time to listen carefully what he said during the fantasy date on PI, we will hear him say that it was some "WEIRD ENERGY" for quite some time with lindsey... said that things changed since hometown.... i mean if people really take the time to take a step back and listen... big fat IF

jmo

I don't care who the lead is or whether or not I like them or whether they have a happy ending or not. That has nothing to do with editing patterns.

I agree. With Bach Can it has been following the same pattern of editing throughout it's seasons. The editing this time around is so in Lyndsey's favor for F1. IMO

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HEA wrote:why sad? sad for lindsey fans if he does not pick her but not sad for mikaela fans if he picked her.

right now all i read (including myself) is JUST ASSUMPTIONS about how he felt. There is absolutely ZERO NADA proof that Lindsey was his favorite. I heard many words said by him to both girls and it would be totally ridiculous to be selective and remove the LOVE STORY because it was clearly said out loud AND directly to her... not during any PI with cut and edits.

It is way too easy to dismiss something that does not fit in one scenario because then we have to revise our "I know for a fact that it is" position and admit we are wrong.

For me, we have absolutely NO IDEA if he fell in love with Mikaeala from the start and Lindsey was always F2, regardless of the words he said. No words is stronger than the other for 1. and we have no idea if chris said the same thing for the other but we never get the chance to hear them for 2.

what we see is not what happened. #fact

based on this, i think we should be way more cautious about the SECOND CHOICE or SAFE ROAD.

all i know is that I want to hear the part 2, THEN decide if Mikaela was the love of his life and maybe.... just maybe, he is still with mikaela today.

we.do.not.know. because we are not either chris, or lindsey or mikaeala. nobody was there during the fantasy night to kiss and tell either.

MY opinion as usual

Gold trimmed, diamond encrusted DITTO! Chris quite clearly doesn't know who he wants to be with so, there's no danger that anyone of us knows anything about him settling or, taking his best shot or, hiding under the bed. JMO

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why sad? sad for lindsey fans if he does not pick her but not sad for mikaela fans if he picked her.

right now all i read (including myself) is JUST ASSUMPTIONS about how he felt. There is absolutely ZERO NADA proof that Lindsey was his favorite. I heard many words said by him to both girls and it would be totally ridiculous to be selective and remove the LOVE STORY because it was clearly said out loud AND directly to her... not during any PI with cut and edits.

It is way too easy to dismiss something that does not fit in one scenario because then we have to revise our "I know for a fact that it is" position and admit we are wrong.

For me, we have absolutely NO IDEA if he fell in love with Mikaeala from the start and Lindsey was always F2, regardless of the words he said. No words is stronger than the other for 1. and we have no idea if chris said the same thing for the other but we never get the chance to hear them for 2.

what we see is not what happened. {#}fact{/#}

based on this, i think we should be way more cautious about the SECOND CHOICE or SAFE ROAD.

all i know is that I want to hear the part 2, THEN decide if Mikaela was the love of his life and maybe.... just maybe, he is still with mikaela today.

we.do.not.know. because we are not either chris, or lindsey or mikaeala. nobody was there during the fantasy night to kiss and tell either.

MY opinion as usual

Bachelor Canada - Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Episode Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers

suntanned..... logic.......

everyone who went to caraibes are suntanned. {#}FACT{/#}

even if she left a week earlier she would have remained suntanned. it is easy to check with her pink bikini {#}FACT{/#}

all the pics she posted at her return, she is not suntanned {#}FACT{/#}

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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - Sleuthing Spoilers Discussion - #14

[mention]sdmom[/mention] wrote:
[mention]Tiggerlgh[/mention] wrote:
[mention]sdmom[/mention] wrote:

Peter posted a pic of him inside a kiddie pool in a grass area first, then Rachel posted her grass pic on the same day. If I were a Pachel fan, I could have thought they were on the same place. I remember the debate if it's chalk or reflection around his heels/her fingers.

It doesn't matter now, really, cause I have no doubt Bryan is Jetome is her fiancé. It's all moot imo. I am just wondering how involved Tptb is in contestants sm.

I remember the debate as well. I just never thought they were ever in the same spot and never thought that was what was intended all my opinion.

No big deal. because in the past, I was the big f2 support, I can understand from the other side's point of few. But I also think fans will always see/hear what they want to believe.
Here's to a (hopefully) romantic finale

It never matters after and it is most of the time dismissed when proved wrong. But IMO this is something people should remember for future reference and sleuthing because it proves that some contestants may not look what they appear and they may also play with SM to fool us, either intentional or not intentional. But most people forget easily when it is not convenient IMO

IMO, Peter from the very start after his return, his focus was his job, his promotions, his old selfies, his JToor partnership, his fitness expansion.... he just could not let his IG alone. {#}fact{/#}

Was it by pride? maybe. Was it malicious? I do not think or hope so. Was it using the franchise? Heck yes! Was it to intentionally put some shade on Bryan? Yes!!!... per jealousy or because he was upset, probably both (kid pool when same day rachel posted this grass pic... or when bryan posted this shirtless on the bed and he did the same with Daisy.... wayyyyyyy too much of coincidence for not be intentional here imo). His many "like" when a comment was to say negative things about Bryan proves it. It also showed a petyness mean side of him that is/was not pretty and attractive at all.

am I interested to see him a full season? nope. either he will pull a Brad 1:0 or proved he faked his feelings if he kisses multiple girls without the broom he looked to have all season with rachel. so seing him kissing with enthousiasm other girl would be way to fake and would not get the love story i wish to see andbe entertained by this franchise. no illusion of love = lost of my time and disinterest

my 2 cennes and my opinion

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Discussion - #9

APOLOGIZES for the length here .... (if you have the courage to read it all: thank you! you gained a full jar of cookies!

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I think Peter was stuck in this bubble. My personal scenario is that he was chocked that the lead liked him from the start (remember his chocked face when he received the first rose at ep1?). He was PLEASANTLY SURPRISED he had a good time during his first 1-1. But I think he mentioned that nothing happened really between his first 1-1 and the second 1-1 (he had things to discuss and BASIC GROUND TO DISCUSS). IMO

So IMO, he was drop in the boat of top 4 without really choosing it. He had no choice but accept the GD and QT and SG, but IMO, he was not really expecting to be front and center. Do not get me wrong: he WANTED to be in order to promote his Jtoor suits... but he did not want to be liked by the lead. So he was in a situation where he had to fake his interest, to push his feelings he did not have, to be in the top 4 shoes that he did not really want. IMO

Along the way, he made friend with Dean. Dean who was top 4. Dean who was the BROTHER HE THOUGHT HE DID NOT WANT. Dean who shared his room and his clothes...... Dean and Peter who probably shared also outside the cameras what happened with Rachel. Dean who was falling for Rachel, understood that he was nothing special when Peter told him she was saying the same things..... (heck Dean's pouty face right after SC in denmark and switzerland). IMO

So Peter, IMO, was never interested in Rachel but he wanted to stay for exposure....... so he did what many did before him, he played her. He did not say or do anything too much but nothing too little for her to think he was not interested. He said the right lines (without eyes contact, without physical reinforcement). HE. PLAYED.HER. IMO

I still believe that on site, prods wanted Eric for next bachelor. The choice of dates is for me something I am questioning such the "WISH CHURCH". I do believe that the crew on site fed Eric about this MIRACLESEASON thing. Lets remember how he was struggling during the first 4 episodes... IMO

So Peter, IMO, never wanted to be F1 or F2. However, it is a male ego to remain top 3 and see a guy he did not like being so favored from day 1 by Rachel (first impression rose, kisses, ellen show cockiness). We do not see that but I bet all the guys in the mansion saw how she reacted around Bryan during the group dates and roses ceremonies. This is something that anyone attracted cannot help. The body language is there and of course the person tend to speak or be around this person most than any other guys. IMO

Peter noticed. Dean noticed. Eric noticed. All the guys noticed. But they all signed up a contract and they had a role to play in front of cameras.... IMO

So I believe it was a big ego for Peter to play the prince charming... and he started early on to be liked. again not especially to be liked by RAchel. .... Peter has an image issue. He was a model for 4 years (CMIIAW). He knows cameras. Trust me on that or he would never have been a successful model. So at all times, Peter was very aware of them around him. So he never say or do anything over the top. IMO

* gave the sandwich that nobody saw but me thinking he was hoping that cameras would catch it somehow (mabe they did but did not care)
* go speak to the 3 little girls at spelling bee for what? to look good again on camera
* sitting on the kitchen floor playing with a 3 years old kid while all the family was STANDING in circle around him... SO SO NATURAL eh?
* saying I am falling in love right before meeting her parents so she could say that he was serious but not be judged when he explained he had zero intention to propose her. IMO

everything was calculated carefully so he looks good on camera.

I have this nagging feeling that the crew wanted him F3 or F4 and Eric F2 but along the way, they changed their mind. Prods played the racism card big time with Lee. We know that. I believe their initial plans were to have a white guy and a black guy standing at the altar. But RAchel did not have it. She fell for Bryan quick and hard. So they were left with Peter who was hire for a purpose (they ALL have a card on their head when their cast each contestant: villain, player, drama, joker, sweet, lover, etc

But along the way, names changed. I do not deny Rachel played a big factor on that and was very infatuated with Peter from the start. She made this fairytale in her head with him (I HAVE MY WI LICENSE while he immediately talked about moving and LA... so it was obvious they were NOT in sync from the start and she was making up a story with Peter with a Peter that did not want it at all... heck his awkwardness, heck his stuttering, heck his silences, heck his stiff body language. IMO

So when he went to meet her parents, he did not change his mind. He was still not interested to Rachel at all. She chasing him for kisses and him picking the worse moment to tell a woman that he is falling in love said it all. There are so many excuses you can make for someone at this stage.

I mentioned it but I have been around models for a while. I know them well. I know this field well. Models need to know their body, know how to move in front of cameras so the camera love them. Models are asked all awkward and stupid things....... including crying in front of cameras.................................. {#}FACT{/#}

BUT I will give him the benefice of the doubt that he may have liked Rachel enough for him to be upset... That I will concede. I also do not put aside that the crew are VERY GOOD at motivation and incitation and pushing the contestants........... However all his IG promotions he did and almost on a daily basis is off putting for me. It is promo upon promo upon promo. Yes he does what he likes with his personal IG but each time I see a new promo I am associating his attitude with how he acted on the show: was he promoting at all time like that and played a character all along?

is Peter evil? no.

Is Peter human? yes.

Should have Peter leave before F4 or before? logically I would say as soon as he did not feel it... but he went with an agenda and that was to promote his fitness and Jtoor partnership. His IG confirms that every day since november 2016 when I believe he was confirmed by the show.

I think Peter is no better or no worse than any contestant. Of course I find him full of it and stiff and a player but he is nothing special above or beyond I have ever already seen in this show. I said it before, what irks me the most is the level of adoration for a guy that does not deserve any of it. And this is why I am still talking about him because honestly, I cannot wait for the finale to forget about him (praying that he will NOT be the next BORING bachelor).

Note that I expressed here just my opinion. and I am fully aware that it is

but it feels good to share it anway!

GEEEZZZZZ sorry for the book here.. I got carry it out with the Peter subject... please carry on :shocked!:

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

[mention]FashionLover[/mention] wrote:
[mention]HEA[/mention] wrote:
[mention]FashionLover[/mention] wrote:*EDIT*Implying this girl threw herself at peter simply because she is wearing a short dress and is beautiful is straight up fowl. Unless it recently became a crime to be beautiful and ask for a fan selfie, some of this comments are unjustified. IMO*EDIT*

1. how do you know it is a fan selfie?
2. a nighty look alike dress short enough and with a huge V to see her boobs is not the best way to present herself like a lady IMO
3. nobody said it was a crime to be beautiful, unless mistaken I did not read that
4. peter is not crying river with this girl next or on his laps {#}fact{/#}
5. Peter is just like any F2 (IMO) contestant... back to his regular life: party with his buddies and girls
6. Perfect Peter is a regular guy after all... {#}crap{/#}

My opinion.

1. how do you know it's not?
2. We're not living in the 1900's. If a woman wants to go out in her bra and panties, she has the prerogative to. If that makes her un lady like in someone'e eyes, then it's more about that someone than it is about the woman in her bra and panties. There are so many expectations placed on women in society these days UHG. If a girl wants to go out with her friends, feel sexy and have fun, she is un lady like

If you can't tell, my issue isn't with what people's assumptions are of peter, but more like how they're portraying this girl.

As for the peter points. Peter is single. Peter is attractive. and I have yet to see any fan posts on here lamenting he's fallen from "grace".

question again (see bold). this is not your opinion. you state it as a fact.

yes everyone woman can go party naked or half naked if they want. It is call s--t in my book to show off a body for the taken. I wonder if she was a plus size, perception would be the same...

Thank Gawd she is not and indeed has a beautiful body to show off. If I wear a jeans and a top or if I wear a nighty short short dress with a large V neck... the image I project is certainly not the same. My purpose also... IMHO

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

HEA wrote:
FashionLover wrote:*EDIT*Implying this girl threw herself at peter simply because she is wearing a short dress and is beautiful is straight up fowl. Unless it recently became a crime to be beautiful and ask for a fan selfie, some of this comments are unjustified. IMO*EDIT*

1. how do you know it is a fan selfie?
2. a nighty look alike dress short enough and with a huge V to see her boobs is not the best way to present herself like a lady IMO
3. nobody said it was a crime to be beautiful, unless mistaken I did not read that
4. peter is not crying river with this girl next or on his laps #fact
5. Peter is just like any F2 (IMO) contestant... back to his regular life: party with his buddies and girls
6. Perfect Peter is a regular guy after all... #crap

My opinion.

1. how do you know it's not?
2. We're not living in the 1900's. If a woman wants to go out in her bra and panties, she has the prerogative to. If that makes her un lady like in someone'e eyes, then it's more about that someone than it is about the woman in her bra and panties. There are so many expectations placed on women in society these days UHG. If a girl wants to go out with her friends, feel sexy and have fun, she is un lady like

If you can't tell, my issue isn't with what people's assumptions are of peter, but more like how they're portraying this girl.

As for the peter points. Peter is single. Peter is attractive. and I have yet to see any fan posts on here lamenting he's fallen from "grace".

Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - Sleuthing Spoilers Discussion - #13

so if I get this right... we have NO freaking CLUE that Bryan and Rachel have decided to move to LA, but if they do Bryan will be for movie/TV/entertainment purposes.

Bryan IS a TV reality show celebrity. No matter how we put it, no matter if he is F1 or F2, even F3. Let me get this right: updating his picture who will certainly be requested in the next 6 coming months with all the gigs the couple will be asked is bad and a sign that he wants to go back at almost 40 in the entertainment business.

It is funny how we put intention in Bryan's head when we never met him, have absolutely no idea his plans.

he put for rent his condo {#}fact{/#}
he is MIA from work {#}fact{/#}

now please someone tell me other big fat FACTS about his intentions because to me it is only speculations that he may or may not move to LA, that he may or may not move to TX, that he may or may not get another chiropractic license, that he may or may not have other plans, adapting his new life along with his new fiancee.

also I find it stupid to think that he is dumb enough to have a new career at almost 40 in Hollywood... I did not know that was such a burden to work in the entertainment field and ALL the actors and actresses are such bad people, brainless, fake, etc... I had no idea when I worked for Disneyland for 5 years...

jmo