Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #4

@sdmom we aren't exactly sure yet , I'm hoping Vanessa gets the most adventurous date and sees the northern lights together and sauna.

Even if the girls aren't on that date with him I believe they all will still see the northern lights. That's not something you wanna miss in a hotel room. IMO

They could be sequestered in their hotel and not on a date and still be able to go with their handler to see the Northern Lights.

cmarci93 wrote:Here is a video from Chris Harrison IG during filming
Source IG
https://instagram.com/p/BOcn8UCDtMs/

I wonder which girl that is.

Relative to Nick, the girl might be slightly taller to be Vanessa. Vanessa tucks in nicely on Nicks shoulder/chin. The woman pictured is almost eyes to nose with Nick. I don't know Nick and Raven's proportions.

2ndcampbell wrote:

cmarci93 wrote:Here is a video from Chris Harrison IG during filming
Source IG
https://instagram.com/p/BOcn8UCDtMs/

I wonder which girl that is.

Relative to Nick, the girl might be slightly taller to be Vanessa. Vanessa tucks in nicely on Nicks shoulder/chin. The woman pictured is almost eyes to nose with Nick. I don't know Nick and Raven's proportions.

Taller women who are possibilities:
Raven
Nick's sister Maria however she is slightly taller than Nick
Melissa Grimaldi who in a family pic posted by Uncle Luciano stands similiar to this pic (knees bent) and is significantly taller than Vanessa
Nick's mom

Regarding all the red helicopter shots in previews, I imagine there is more than 1 red helicopter in Lapland,, more like a fleet belonging to a specific company. That means the helicopter clips could be from different scenes especially given that the landscape is vast and snow covered. It may be a quick preferred mode of transport vs road travel for filming.

The Lapland Hotel Riekonlinna has a glassroom designed to watch the Northern Lights. So I agree with Kasha that they gals may get the chance to go and watch them with their handlers.
JMO

@Seabear I'm the one that thinks they will probably see it still.

But this is what Finland IG posted and ravers nick so it has to be one of the girls

@Kashathediva that's what I was saying that they will still see the lights either way.

happygolucky wrote:@Skates IA that there were probably moments (days) when they couldn't connect or built on their connection (like on GD) ... but Nick mentioned how he observed the girls on the first night of M&G, how they ate, how they tried to entertain themselves when they weren't aware to be watched ... to understand them and their characters, so I'm guessing he did that kind of observing all the time even when he wasn't engaging in the conversation with them and IMO he was very observant how she was reacting to the situations (girl around), also she was good in communicating her issues once they were finally together again, bringing whatever bugged her in the previous days to the front (like her starting the debate on the yacht) ... and his "stay out of your head" IMO is based on his perception of Vanessa (correct, JMO), so he knows her "pretty well" by now despite the environment and lack of time to really "get to know each other".

Good analysis as ever @happygolucky. As to the bolded- I keep thinking that in addition to giving her some comfort by saying this- he is probably noticing how similar they are as he is known as an analyser of details too, and he will be recalling how he was feeling at both of his HTDs. I also think him saying 'keep out of your head' implies trusting your heart instead & harks back to when he told her and/or himself to 'trust your heart' as good things will come.
Nick IMO loves to observe human behaviour & interaction- I found him very concise in his descriptions of people when commenting on TB / BIP episodes during Afterbuzz & other interviews. I think he will have had a good read of most of his F4 throughout the season as well as on groups dates.
I remember him once talking about how fun BIP was to watch as a viewer due to the interactions, can't recall which interview but it struck me how interested in the whole dynamic and social experiment nature of the show that he was.
IMO.

On another note- I keep thinking I can't wait for Bella to meet Vanessa!!!
IMO if that goes well then Nick will be grinning like a Chesire cat.

However- do we think a lot of the family will come to Finland, or just a select few?
Hopefully Bella would be there, as she's the youngest & would be with her parents.

ukglasgowkiiss wrote:On another note- I keep thinking I can't wait for Bella to meet Vanessa!!!
IMO if that goes well then Nick will be grinning like a Chesire cat.

However- do we think a lot of the family will come to Finland, or just a select few?
Hopefully Bella would be there, as she's the youngest & would be with her parents.

Nick said in an interview not everyone in his immediate family knows the details of the ending of his journey so IMO not all were there.

I'll just park this here.
Nick has never looked at anyone the way he looks at Vanessa. It is love.
IMHO.

@ukglasgowkiiss IA or smiled and laughed like he does with her. IMO I'm seeing facial expressions I've never seen before.