Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - Episodes - Mar 5th FRC ATFR - #2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

XQZME wrote:How appropriate would be if Lauren broke up with Arie live on ATFR tonight?!  

Her trust issues should be pinging off the hook after watching last night and finding out Arie wasn't honest with her about what all Beeca knew.

Mommyof2 wrote:Oh, and more thing.  Bekah M. needs to take pointers from Sienne. Sienne was nothing but class last night when asked about the situation.  Bekah on SM...not so much.  Jmo

Mommyof2 wrote:I only caught bits and pieces of the show last night, so this morning I was able to watch it from beginning to end.  Here are some thoughts I had.  Becca was good on paper, so Arie chose her.  Lauren was the one that had a difficult time opening up and I'm sure that became tiring for Arie.  It was just easy and flowed with Becca, but it was more difficult with Lauren.  As Lauren said in her 'walk of shame, "I feel he chose the easy route."  Arie should never have proposed to Becca, but I have a feeling he didn't have much of a choice OR he thought he would grow to love Becca more post-show.  When it wasn't going in that direction, he started to think more and more about Lauren and their strong connection.  I really can't fault Arie for his change of heart, but could he have handled it differently?  Absolutely.  I did notice during the breakup time in the SH, his neck was beet red.  Sign of stress...or someone wringing his neck.  . Should he have done this on camera?  No, but TPTB were going to film that moment no matter what.  It wasn't fair to Becca, but I have a feeling she will be getting the grand prize of all...the 'Ette position.  Jmho.

Sprite wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:Oh, and more thing.  Bekah M. needs to take pointers from Sienne. Sienne was nothing but class last night when asked about the situation.  Bekah on SM...not so much.  Jmo

I agree Sienne has been nothing but class throughout the show, but I would bet if Arie had been creeping her SM, she would have outed him too.

Mommyof2 wrote:Oh, and more thing.  Bekah M. needs to take pointers from Sienne. Sienne was nothing but class last night when asked about the situation.  Bekah on SM...not so much.  Jmo

Sprite wrote:

XQZME wrote:How appropriate would be if Lauren broke up with Arie live on ATFR tonight?!  

Her trust issues should be pinging off the hook after watching last night and finding out Arie wasn't honest with her about what all Beeca knew.

This is what I wrote last night. This is my hope and would truly be the most dramatic final EVER!!! I bet tptb would wet their panties over that possibility. They could be trying to manipulate make it happen as we speak. 

North wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:I only caught bits and pieces of the show last night, so this morning I was able to watch it from beginning to end.  Here are some thoughts I had.  Becca was good on paper, so Arie chose her.  Lauren was the one that had a difficult time opening up and I'm sure that became tiring for Arie.  It was just easy and flowed with Becca, but it was more difficult with Lauren.  As Lauren said in her 'walk of shame, "I feel he chose the easy route."  Arie should never have proposed to Becca, but I have a feeling he didn't have much of a choice OR he thought he would grow to love Becca more post-show.  When it wasn't going in that direction, he started to think more and more about Lauren and their strong connection.  I really can't fault Arie for his change of heart, but could he have handled it differently?  Absolutely.  I did notice during the breakup time in the SH, his neck was beet red.  Sign of stress...or someone wringing his neck.  . Should he have done this on camera?  No, but TPTB were going to film that moment no matter what.  It wasn't fair to Becca, but I have a feeling she will be getting the grand prize of all...the 'Ette position.  Jmho.

Why didn't he have much of a choice? He could've chosen Lauren. He should've chosen Lauren. But what does that say about Arie that he didn't? That he doesn't trust himself? Didn't trust Lauren? That he caved to TPTB? That he caved to his family? That he caved to this public perception that he needs to pick a strong, independent "older" woman? This scenario is so incredibly weird (IMO). And it doesn't say much for Arie being self-evolved and self-aware. And he definitely has been shown to be less than self-less (IMO).

I want to hear more for him about why he DIDN'T choose Lauren first. And I want to hear from both Arie AND Becca about who knew what when and how much they knew. I see lots of posts about Arie being totally truthful and then others highlighting half-truths from his conversation last night when comparing to Becca's People Magazine article. As usual, I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle.

All IMO.

GuardianAngel wrote:I thought about this too last night, but at that point I didn't care. My mind was made up.

They don’t usually film the secret dates after the final rose do they?

— KellyC (@KellyC819) March 6, 2018

Yeah so they filmed at least one date before that. That seems suspicious to me. Why would they film that before they supposedly knew he was going to break up with her?

— KellyC (@KellyC819) March 6, 2018

Kashathediva wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:I thought about this too last night, but at that point I didn't care. My mind was made up.

They don’t usually film the secret dates after the final rose do they?

— KellyC (@KellyC819) March 6, 2018

Yeah so they filmed at least one date before that. That seems suspicious to me. Why would they film that before they supposedly knew he was going to break up with her?

— KellyC (@KellyC819) March 6, 2018

That is a good point and one I forget. Now I am interested in why they filmed the first SHV.