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Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - Discussion - #2

cookielover12 wrote:Danielle L posted a video on Snapchat with the song "Bounce Back" And the lyrics were "Last night I took a L, but tonight I bounce back" and Raven was jumping on the bed. Im taking that as she celebrating that she dodged a bullet with Nick. so immature.

I took the jumping on the bed to be acting out the literal "bounce back" in the lyrics and also to emphasize that she might have gotten broken up with (or "dumped") last night, but she's bouncing back and getting over it now. I didn't see anything implying "bullet dodged" at all. Nick broke up with her, officially televised Monday - IMO it's fine and normal for her to dance it out/get some drinks/party with her girlfriends to "get over it" (publicly - I know the event actually happened months ago).


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by TheWrongReasons
on Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:36 pm
 
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Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 9B - WTA - Mar 6 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Cila51290 wrote:Why are so many of the #teamraven comments on Nick's latest IG pic from teenagers? LOL


Because Raven acts like one?
by mindless
on Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:29 am
 
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Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 9B - WTA - Mar 6 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Why are so many of the #teamraven comments on Nick's latest IG pic from teenagers? LOL
by Cila51290
on Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:26 am
 
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Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5

notarose wrote:Does anyone follow Robby Hayes on IG?
I don't but I often look at "likes" on pics posted of Vanessa by people other than her or Nick and Robby frequently pops up as a liker.  Example
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQTHop0gmse/?taken-by=sicmonkie

There are lots of more recent likes as well but this was when I first noticed because it's somewhat obscure.

Just wondering if this typical of him with pics of other girls on this season.


I think I read that he's been creepily stalking and following just about every woman from Nick's season. Not surprised he's trying it with Vanessa even if he may have read spoilers that she's Nick's F1. He's the one when Nick and Vanessa's first 1 on 1 aired was tweeting about how he's just waiting for Josh Murray to show up and steal her too from Nick. He's pathetic.

Is amazing how much people used to love Vanessa at the beginning of the season and how much people have turned on her and want Nick to pick Raven . IMO post show Vanessa and Nick are going to have a tough time dealing with a lot of bad criticism on SM, this season editing hasn't done a lot of favors on her and this is not going to be a bachelor couple that people are going to be rooting for


If Nick and Vanessa are happy and make their relationship work, in a few weeks/months no one will care. The fact is right now there are a lot of people going off some rumors and negative comments about Vanessa from RS and crappy edit by the producers. So of course it's all #TeamRaven. However, no one has heard a word from Vanessa since this show ended. No one has any sense of where her head's at and even really her full personality and thoughts without the producers edit telling whatever story they want. We haven't seen her and Nick actually legitimately together. That more than anything is always what tells the true story of a couple in my opinion.
by lleyki
on Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:38 pm
 
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Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5

Luvstruck wrote:So many people seem to see such a great connection to Vanessa but it seems like what may have started out fun/great is now a downer with both questioning. Sorry, I don't buy IMO Rose Colored Glasses theories that Nick knew he was going to choose Vanessa from the beginning.  Why at hometown date did she & Nick both say they had not discussed what their life would be like after the show? If she was his main interest then with Nick and Vanessa being such attributed "thinkers" they should have seen the elephant in the room ....where they would live! Heck even little Corinne said in one of her interviews she and Nick had talked about how life together would be after the show yet he had not had that talk with Vanessa? It makes me wonder if people are being heavily influenced by RS spoiler. Oh well, I always seem to route for the underdog on this show but no matter who Nick chooses I hope they are happily together. Supposedly there is still a "Wild" (per Raven) & "Historic" (per Mike Fleiss) After the Final Rose to look forward to!!!


Except that's just it. Heading into the home stretch your comment of them being a "downer" is actually the more popular opinion around. How many comments and posts have been made analyzing and investigating the signs that clearly seem to point to their being broken up? And we're seeing suggestions that this could all be a big foiler season and he really chose Raven. 

And then there's all of Bachelor Nation saying how little connection he has with anyone and some like Danny saying flat out whoever he chooses it won't last. I've also seen many #TeamRaven on Bachelor social media sites. In other words, so many people don't seem to be seeing the connection right now because the editing is sure telling us that yeah things are oh so challenging with them. 

Regarding them not talking about where they would live, they never said they never discussed it. Nick did say when her family asked that they did a little bit but just not very in-depth. And I don't think they would be the first final couple where that's the case or it proves Nick couldn't have been the most into her from day one. JMO.
by lleyki
on Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:49 pm
 
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Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

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We love us some Raven! She was precious enough to stop and take a picture with every one of her fans tonight:) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] @ravennicolegates  by @[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

This is where Raven was last night.
by atem
on Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:56 pm
 
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Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Lara wrote:Was it Raven that did the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or her friends/employees? Because I don't see any in her IG or tweets, unless I'm missing it. All I've seen her do is promote her clothes, which is just being smart. I don't feel like she's anywhere close to robby levels of embarrassing. Raven has been so supportive of Rachel when she was announced, instead of being resentful or doing those dumb "I'll be okay!" posts that Jojo's guys did when Nick was announced. Fame changes people, so who knows what will happen in the future with any of these girls, but I don't see anything suspicious about her behavior so far, IMO.


They were selling them at her store, so i would say her and friends/employees
by cookielover12
on Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:33 pm
 
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Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Lara wrote:Was it Raven that did the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or her friends/employees? Because I don't see any in her IG or tweets, unless I'm missing it. All I've seen her do is promote her clothes, which is just being smart. I don't feel like she's anywhere close to robby levels of embarrassing. Raven has been so supportive of Rachel when she was announced, instead of being resentful or doing those dumb "I'll be okay!" posts that Jojo's guys did when Nick was announced. Fame changes people, so who knows what will happen in the future with any of these girls, but I don't see anything suspicious about her behavior so far, IMO.


The TeamRaven logo clothing became available for purchase through her store website prior to the airing of the premiere. Since she is the owner, all product would need her approval.

I don't see Raven doing anything that hasn't been done before regarding fame.

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by notarose
on Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:33 pm
 
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Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Was it Raven that did the {#}teamRaven{/#} or her friends/employees? Because I don't see any in her IG or tweets, unless I'm missing it. All I've seen her do is promote her clothes, which is just being smart. I don't feel like she's anywhere close to robby levels of embarrassing. Raven has been so supportive of Rachel when she was announced, instead of being resentful or doing those dumb "I'll be okay!" posts that Jojo's guys did when Nick was announced. Fame changes people, so who knows what will happen in the future with any of these girls, but I don't see anything suspicious about her behavior so far, IMO.
by Guest
on Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:18 pm
 
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Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

I don't like or dislike Raven. I can't decide if her pre show [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is self promotion or business savvy. I don't know if she's truly the sweet funny southern girl or a secret mean girl. I do think What she did to her ex is assualt, even though he's a d-bag. I can't wait to see her AFTR and post show. IMO, that's when I can get a glimpse of her true character.
by sdmom
on Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:02 pm
 
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Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Edgarretana10 wrote:Has anyone noticed that Raven deleted her picture with Nick on twitter, the one she also posted on instagram


I see it on her Instagram.  I will check twitter.  It looks like several pics were deleted on twitter.  I don't know why though.

Oh, and look at this cute pic!

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by atem
on Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:24 am
 
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that is my interpretation of the tweet. She was very vocal during filming about her excitement for Raven moving forward. Always posting roses, hearts and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. that tweet is quite the 180 from the others. IMO she and probably the rest of Ravens family are aware of the outcome.
by hae1001
on Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:09 pm
 
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